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[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No. You're being ignorant.

Of the 827, only 127 could have had the definition of a spontaneous abortion because the definition is a miscarriage at 20 weeks of gestation or earlier. So those 700 that were vaccinated in their third trimester were de facto ineligible to have a spontaneous abortion and should not be included in the analysis.

Does that make sense?

[–]Wrangel 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Of the 827 women who had a completed pregnancy, 104 had a miscarriage. Therefore, the authors calculate that of the completed pregnancies, there was a 12.6% rate of miscarriage. (This was calculated with just those who had a completed pregnancy by the time the preliminary study had been released.)

So 12.6% miscarriage rate which is pretty much normal.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Again you're being ignorant and I'm starting to think it's intentional. Read the bolded please.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117969/

A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation (Table 4), and 700 of 712 pregnancies that resulted in a live birth (98.3%) were among persons who received their first eligible vaccine dose in the third trimester.

If a woman is in their third trimester then they're already beyond the point of being able to have a spontaneous abortion as those only happen before 20 weeks of pregnancy.

I've written this out in as simple a way as possible, so if you're this incapable of understanding these words then I don't know what else to say.

[–]Wrangel 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Just google the study. There are tonnes of articles showing that the study doesn't show that the vaccine is dangerous. Or read the conclusion of the study which clearly states that vaccines are safe.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Or you could be literate enough to read and understand the study yourself. Clearly you're not, so your opinion of the matter isn't even your own. You're incapable of engaging with the data yourself. I've spelled it out for you in terms that a sixth grader should be able to understand and you continue to refuse to think for yourself. You sound like a voluntary NPC.

[–]Wrangel 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes,I failed to understand the article since I drew the same conclusion that the authers themselves drew.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's worse than that, the authors actually revised their calculation and admitted that how they calculated it was a mistake and they have since revised their initial table and done a follow-up, see here.

The authors reply: Sun appropriately raises questions about the proportion of women reporting spontaneous abortion in our recent article. We agree that the denominator used in that proportion — 827 completed pregnancies — is not an appropriate denominator for the calculation of a risk estimate or rate.

The number of spontaneous abortions (104) reflects data reported by the participants as of March 30, 2021, during telephone follow-up. In this preliminary report, follow-up information was missing for the majority of pregnancies in which exposure to vaccination occurred in early pregnancy. Among the 1224 women who had been vaccinated before conception or in the first trimester, follow-up through 20 weeks of gestation had been completed for only 204 pregnancies that were known to be ongoing and for 1 pregnancy that resulted in stillbirth. Among the pregnancies that had not yet reached 20 weeks of gestation, there were 10 pregnancies with other outcomes before 20 weeks of gestation, including 8 ectopic pregnancies and 2 induced abortions. For the other 905 pregnancies, follow-up had not occurred to establish whether these pregnancies were ongoing past 20 weeks of gestation. We have amended Table 4 in our earlier publication and have clarified the text.

Subsequently, we completed telephone follow-up for the 905 pregnancies and enrolled additional persons in the v-safe pregnancy registry. To determine the cumulative risk of spontaneous abortion from 6 to less than 20 weeks of gestation, we used life-table methods to perform an updated analysis, now reported in the Journal, involving 2456 women who received at least one dose of an mRNA Covid-19 vaccine before conception or before 20 weeks of gestation.1 The estimated risks (14.1% overall and 12.8% in age-standardized analyses) are consistent with the risks of spontaneous abortion reported in the general population.1

These numbers are much lower than that initial sample (104 of the 165 occurring in a 127 woman sample vs. 61 happening in a sample that is 8x larger) which leads me to believe that they likely miscarried sooner rather than later post-vaccination, which raises more questions. Specifically what proportion overall miscarried (i.e. perform a similar and rigorous follow-up as the initial data collection was), and how long after vaccination did the spontaneous abortions occur? This is where a placebo group being injected with water would be useful.