Genealogy of morals

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

good thing about french revolution was guillotining the rich.

[–]la_cues 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What if they become wealthy from their merits?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

have to get rid of all current rich then we can maybe try a merit based economy

[–]la_cues 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What about a wealth redistribution measure, or a parallel fiscal tool that is built and then transitioned to?

Why must you resort to murder?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

tried and failed

it's like how when a king was deposed, in the past they'd want to kill his offspring or else they'd ty to retake power some day. Or in the wild, when a lion kills his rival lion to take over the pride, he kills all of the cubs. People don't give up power willingly.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

No, the best thing was that it led to the rise of Napoleon.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Sorry this is kind of off topic but it's been bugging me for a while because there's a technical term for the rise of a Napoleon/Stalin type figure who's a corrective to the excesses of a revolution like Napoleon was and I can't for the life of me remember the word. Your comment just reminded me of it so I thought I'd ask.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Pendulum principle?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the idea but there's actually a more specific name for the coming of that Napoleon type figure after a revolution. Thank you though.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Reactionary

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No it's a more specific term.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Napoleon wasn't really a reactionary.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think he can be called one. He abolished democracy and instated himself as an absolute monarch. He also rolled back many of the most oppressive measures aimed against the aristocracy and the clergy.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Caesarism?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

well not sure that was the best thing tho it was good. The coalitions formed from the monarchs of europe to stop napoleon because they were worried the revolution would spread and they'd get guillotined. Napoleon was a great general and had a great mind so it made sense he would lead the french army. But if it wasn't him someone else would have risen to the challenge and when men are fighting for a good cause they are willing to fight. Napoleon still eventually lost though (the whole invading russia in winter thing again).

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is that why they massacred Catholic peasants by the hundreds of thousands in the Vendee?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

that was cuz they were supporting the catholic church which was corrupt

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wow you have such a profound grasp of history. Thanks for the discussion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no prob