Marines die in the gayest way possible

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (44 children)

You started the insults you pathetic little creep and you also told me to kill myself -- which really hurt my feelings ill have you know!! -- now you're complaining others are childish and breaking saidit rules. You really are a disgusting hypocrite.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (43 children)

Don't act like the victim. That's absolute nonsense. Look back at your eight comments against me, in all of which you insult me. Do I not have the right to respond at the same level of the pyramid to your insults? Am I to be nice to you when you insult me? Think about that for a second. When you insulted me, you lowered the discourse to the bottom of the POD. Any response from me - at the same level as your comment - or furher up the pyramid, did not break the rules. I was not the original one to lower the discourse; you were. Consider the golden rule and follow Saidit's rules (or think about the feelings of others, or think about not bullying others) and no one will have the right to respond with insults.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

I initially responded to you with a long response completely free of insults explaining my position. Then YOU responded to a comment which wasn't even directed at you with an insult to which I responded in kind. I'm not a victim and who really cares but those are the facts you little bitch. You started the insults and then got push back now you're whining about people being childish and breaking the rules because you're a hypocrite. Don't be a liar as well. Take responsibility for your own actions. If you insult people -- which you regularly do -- people are going to respond in kind.

I insult people a lot but I don't complain and cry when people push back. That's only natural.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

I insult people a lot but I don't complain and cry when people push back.

Seriously? You just said, "which really hurt my feelings ill have you know!!"

This comment of yours is literally a complaint. This is also the first time I've read that comment on Saidit.

Moreover - let's look at your first response to me, where there are insults:

The people who began the war are nearly as sickening as the people crying crocodile tears now over the fate of the poor Afghanis and soldiers now.

Those would be my crocadile tears, correct? Did you hurt my feelings?

Where were they when the thousands of soldiers who have died in this God forsaken hell hole for no conceivable reason? Where were you?

Another insult? I've organized and attended protests in London, where there were over 100,000 people on two occasions, and 10s of thousands on other occasions. I also paid to support musicians from Afghanistan leave their countries and go on tour.

I'd Ike to see ONE post you've made weeping for the soldiers in Afghanistan or Iraq before today.

Another insult, where you question my honesty?

If you think it's cruel to realize these soldiers died for nothing along with the thousands of others who died -- not to mention the Afghanis -- then go weep your eyes out with bill kristol, Lindsay Graham and Jenny Rubin.

And the worst kind of insult, comparing me to the assholes, Kristol and Graham. I don't know who Rubin is.

(I was indeed responding to your insults.)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

So you are from London? Mogadishu? America?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Ask your momma.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Slime.

[–]russianhomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

that is an insult to slime.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The insults on this website, I tell you...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Probably, skeeter

[–]russianhomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there is no reason to insult slime, what did slime every do to you?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh come on! That's classic old-school repartee. (Don't be a weakling, especially when 99% of your responses to me are insults.)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, it was just weak in general. Seriously.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aw, man, that really hurts...

[–]russianhomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

fuckn perverse motherfucker always running around with your dirty mouth insults.

drop the insults.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Running around?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Seriously? You just said, "which really hurt my feelings ill have you know!!"

I was kidding. Calm down. Also none of the other things in my original response are personal insults that lower the tone they're observations.

As usual you won't take responsibility for your own behaviour.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I was kidding. Calm down.

There is absolutely nothing in your posts - other than "silly goose" - that indicates that you are kidding about anything.

Also none of the other things are personal insults that lower the tone they're observations.

Yes, they are.

As usual you won't take responsibility for your own behaviour.

Name something you want me to "take responsibility" for. I am kindly responding to your abuses and accusations. What exactly are you expecting after you've insulted someone in ALL of your responses? Should I say: thank you for calling me a faggot. Have a wonderful day.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

What exactly are you expecting after you've insulted someone in ALL of your responses?

Not much. You should really be asking yourself that question though, Socks.

Also this is my final word on the matter and it's a response to a mod:

Dude it's totally fine. We traded insults. Don't ban him [socks] on account of me and I was just kidding when I said it hurt my feelings. I know it wasn't a threat or anything it's just internet bantz. All I'm trying to point out to him is that he started insulting people so he got the same back so he shouldn't complain nothing else.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Tsk, tsk. You're being a mean pee pee head.

Sometimes the PoD feels like a copout to tell on the banter once someone gets insulted. I know that it can end up distracting from real discussion after someones panties get in enough of a wad, but it would be neat if we could express the expletives without all of that and just continue to discuss things.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

PoD?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Pyramid of Debate

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Take responsibility for the fact that YOU started insulting people last night. It's a simple point and it's undeniable.

Also no nothing in my original comment to you before you started with the low tier insults was a personal insult.

What exactly are you expecting after you've insulted someone in ALL of your responses?

You called me a 'fucking idiot', I called you a 'faggot'. You're the only one whining and trying to make up lies about 'look mommy, the bad men insulted me first.'

You started the insults last night. Just accept it, stop lying and move on.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Take responsibility for the fact that YOU started insulting people last night.

This is unrelated to the present thread. I don't know what you're talking about.

It's a simple point and it's undeniable.

You've not identified the 'last night' thing that you now want to include in the discussion.

Also no nothing in my original comment to you before you started with the low tier insults was a personal insult.

Yes, there were, for reasons already explained to you.

You called me a 'fucking idiot', I called you a 'faggot'. You're the only one whining and trying to make up lies about 'look mommy, the bad men insulted me first.'

Did I whine about anything? I responded to your concerns because you said your feelings were hurt. Perhaps I shouldn't have. Moreover, you are still insulting me in every one of your responses in this thread. Why to you have to do that? Is this important for you?

You started the insults last night. Just accept it, stop lying and move on.

All of my comments in this thread were made between the morning today (in the US) now, just before midnight on the East Coast.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

There is absolutely nothing in your posts - other than "silly goose" - that indicates that you are kidding about anything.

I'm an adult male I don't go around complaining if people hurt my feelings. Hopefully any other reader would understand that but if you can't then so be it. Be pedantic and continue lying and playing the victim.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

any other reader would understand that but if you can't then so be it. Be pedantic and continue lying and playing the victim.

And another insult. You can't stop with the insults, can you?

You complained that I hurt your feelings, which is why I responded. Why do you insist that you did not complain? Don't bother answering these questions. This is ridiculous.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You're totally amping up the victim complex shit. Just calm down, call each other stupid names for a minute, and get back to your points. You're losing focus on what's important in your debate and letting it slide to being butthurt instead, and that doesn't help anything.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I've had to identify insults, because I was accused of starting trouble with insults, whereas I merely responded to insults - many of which you can see in this thread of 134 comments. For this reason, I am not "amping up the victim complex shit" when I refer to the insults. These are not emotional references. I did however let send_nasty_stuff know that I am upset about Afghanistan, but not in a way that indicates that I am a victim.

    Normally I respond to insults because I don't want to tolerate bullying. I wouldn't be on Saidit if I couldn't tolerate any bullying, however.

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Any response from me - at the same level as your comment - or furher up the pyramid, did not break the rules. I was not the original one to lower the discourse; you were.

    This is my first comment to you before I went to bed last night:

    They sacrificed their lives for nothing. The blood is on the hands of the people who began the war. The people who began the war are nearly as sickening as the people crying crocodile tears now over the fate of the poor Afghanis and soldiers now. Where were they when the thousands of soldiers who have died in this God forsaken hell hole for no conceivable reason? Where were you? I'd Ike to see ONE post you've made weeping for the soldiers in Afghanistan or Iraq before today. The only kind response to this whole decades long disaster is complete withdrawal and only disgusting cynics are asking people to weep over this.

    The only kindness in war is a swift ending and that's what we're finally getting. If you think it's cruel to realize these soldiers died for nothing along with the thousands of others who died -- not to mention the Afghanis -- then go weep your eyes out with bill kristol, Lindsay Graham and Jenny Rubin.

    This is your first response to me to a comment which wasn't directed at you:

    No they've not - you fucking idiot.

    YOU started the insults, hypocrite. YOU LOWERED THE TONE. You got exactly what you deserve and acted in the exact same way you complain others do.

    Don't make up lies.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    As I think you've now seen, I responded to the insults in your first post here. And when you compare me with Kristol and Graham, the gloves are obviously off.

    When you tell me that I am making up lies, that's another insult.

    In any event, my main concern was not about your insults in the first post, but about your comment that "they sacrificed their lives for nothing." They've not. The insults about crocodile tears just made it worse. It's not phony for someone to mourn the loss of those lives.

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Comparing you to Kristol and Graham -- and the comparison is apt in this case -- is not a personal insult.

    When you tell me that I am making up lies, that's another insult.

    Stop making up lies then.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, it is an insult. And the comparison is definitely not 'apt', which is another insult. Nor have I lied, which is another insult. Now let's see, how many insults have I received from all of your posts? A bunch. Thank you so much for all of the insults. I've been asked to let you know that I don't want you to kill yourself, and that I am sorry for suggesting it. My apologies.