What are your thoughts on this proposal a Black Nationalist I've been speaking to on discord, regarding racial justice in the US?

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Mandatory police body cams and body armour.

Prioritization of non white or mixed patrols in black areas aswell as in calls. He also stated he would like communities to have the right to set up a citizen guard to police the area.

The right of Black criminals to request a majority or all nonwhite jury aswell as a non white judge.

Prohibition of White judges from assigning the death penalty to Black criminals.

The establishment of Black ethno autonomous zones such as Western Mississippi, central Alabama and super majority Black cities.

Reparations for the black community. He stated this would mainly come from White leftist billionaires and he would want jews to pay their fair share aswell.

He said he was open to segregating US education in particular history and would like if affirmative action/equity were better applied by treating jews as non whites.

He wants more Black only colleges and businesses.

How much of this do you agree with?

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[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Black ethno autonomous zones

We already have ghettos.

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    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Based and Nietzschepilled.

    [–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This is entirely true, but some of these things should be the norm already. Why aren't all cops equipped with both better guns/armor and body cams already? Racially homogenous juries is a bit more complex, but other stuff like segregation (at the very least) should be a thing still. Obviously these things don't exist because of the tribe that controls us, but a couple fo these are actually good ideas.

    I definitely agree that we shouldn't even consider shit like reparations, though, and other "protections" for blacks. They don't need or deserve them.

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      [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      What race are you?

      [–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Why do blacks always try to force this stupid non-white alliance?

      Because it's something that exists, and is useful for them. The left is largely a non-white alliance considering the majority of whites are conservative.

      [–]TrabWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's the new identity forming (at least in America) with younger non-whites. Their parents may have been just Koreans, Mexicans, Arabs or whatever but as they grew up in America with it's """""""culture"""""""" we see them not identify with their parents ethnic origins as much as the vague term of "POC". Hence we'll see the future of discourse in America be more White vs "POCs"

      [–]DisgustResponse 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      If blacks want freedom from whites, then it's only fair to give whites freedom from blacks.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      This isn't black nationalism lol it's just more 'let black people get away with everything'ism IE the jewish system already in place.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      How much of this do you agree with?

      100%, lol.

      But that's because his "demands" already exist. It's called Jamaica, Haiti, the Bahamas, are all Black ethnostates that exist in North America. They have black schools, black officers, black juries etc. There's also Liberia in Africa which was created for African slaves to return to and still has laws that only allow black citizenship.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberian_nationality_law

      Article V, Section 13 of the 1847 Constitution which states: "The great object of forming these Colonies, being to provide a home for the dispersed and oppressed children of Africa, and to regenerate and enlighten this benighted continent, none but persons of colour shall be eligible to citizenship in this Republic."

      The time for segregating America is long gone. Malcolm X & George Lincoln Rockwell were both in agreement with each other but both got assassinated. If America is to recover, then it needs to be made 80% White again. Anything else, and we just end with a Neo-Brazil.

      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Reparations for the black community. He stated this would mainly come from White leftist billionaires and he would want jews to pay their fair share aswell.

      This is only if all Blacks are deported and cannot reenter White countries. All reparations come with full deportations.

      [–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I don't negotiate with terrorists.

      [–]asterias 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Concerning police and justice: Nothing wrong with having their own, as far as they live inside their own state. Which is actually the answer to the rest as well. Why only segregate history and not math and science as well? And what about reparations to those who are descendants of whites sold as slaves by negroes?

      If you want racial justice, you should have your own state where your successes and failures will be your own responsibility.

      Now nothing of that would have happened if negroes were given their own state back then when the American Civil War was fought.

      [–]peaceful✞ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      2-5 are ok, the rest are mostly antiwhite. Body cams are already mandatory in most places and they are used by the media to blow things out of proportion and incite antiwhiteism.

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      So he's just like every other black in the country and wants gibs and thinks it's da police and dem whites holding da keeds back? Funny most black nationalists are a step above this crap but in terms of the calls for autonomy and parallel legal systems great. The more distance there is between us the better.

      As for repararitions he can shove it up his black ass they're not owed one cent and that money would just end up being used for what they always spend their money on. Labour is the basis of wealth. Blacks just think it's a magic thing whitey gives and takes away. Arbeit macht frei, Mr Negro. Time for you people to learn that.

      Overall though it's fine but the people he needs to be convincing are his fellow blacks and guilt ridden white liberals not people like us.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Reparations to blacks is actually just a wealth transfer from white labour to capital and wouldn't benefit blacks in the slightest. They'd immediately spend the money on consumables (alcohol, weed etc) and conspicuous consumption (clothes, shoes, jewellery) which effectively just hands the money taken from white taxes and gives it to capitalists, mostly jewish.

      The % of the 'reparations' that would be spent on productive property, housing etc would be less than 1. Reparations is actually an anti-socialist, pro-capital position.

      [–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      How much do I agree with? None. A good way for him to get black judges, police etc, is we segregate completely. That is my counteroffer. No reparations.

      [–]Thiswaycomrads 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Why? Why don't we simply give all black Americans a one way ticket back to Africa? They can have their own country and laws and culture and land and leave us the fuck alone. I don't care what they do in Africa so long as they leave white countries alone.