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[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This is interesting food for thought.

I would argue that "developed land" and "civilization" are subjective and certainly not entirely "civil".

Coming to a "post-industrial nation" is moving into a debt-slave state. You can't just go out into the forest, stake some land, and start building. This new world is not only a forest of endless red tape, ownership legalese, building codes, etc etc etc, the same bureaucracy applies new business and all other facets of life - thus, especially without financial leverage, your fundamental options are reduced to being a debt slave, being on welfare, or trying to thrive outside of what is "legal".

This is not just comparing apples and oranges - it's apples and orangutan cages.

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I agree, it is incredibly different compared to each other. I simply saw some similarities and thought someone might like the little joke.

I'd take the apples over the orangutan cages, mate.