White Supremacy: What is actually wrong with supporting it?

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from self.debatealtright

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It wouldn't be a good thing for whites.

Whites are going extinct. The more genetic distance there is between the races, the less interbreeding will occur. If we mix with nonwhites, we create "bridges" between the races that will transfer genes from other races into the white population and from the white population into the other races.
In a situation where whites are going extinct, such bridges are not an advantage to us. I've even thought that it is possible that such bridges are never an advantage.

It is also bad generally for human bio diversity which we need, not as the white race, but as the human species. It is very bad that we don't have our neanderthal, denisovan (et al) cousins anymore. This provided a much needed genetic diversity that allowed us to survive basically any climate change for hundreds of thousands of years and within the past 10-40k years, the genetic diversity has gone to absolute shit and much of that diversity is simply EXTINCT and not recoverable.

We should imo strive to improve the genetic stock of Africans and other races but not by breeding with them. A time will come when intermixing will become necessary for us to survive as a species, but that time is not now

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The solution is to create enough half-whites who become the new ruling class of their country and are thus able to be more self sufficient.

The perfect example of this is Haiti and the Dominican Republic. It's one whole island, divided in half. The Pure African side is a warzone that eats mud cookies, whereas the mixed race Spanish side resembles a poor but somewhat stable European country.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If we mix with nonwhites, we create "bridges" between the races that will transfer genes from other races into the white population and from the white population into the other races.

This plan wouldn't transfer any more non-white genes into the white gene pool than is already happening, it would only transfer more white genes into non-white gene pools.

The nice thing about sperm donation is that sperm can literally be created infinitely, so even one white man of high genetic quality alone donating sperm could still potentially fertilize tens of thousands of women around the world in his lifetime.

.

It is also bad generally for human bio diversity which we need, not as the white race, but as the human species.

Lack of human biodiversity only becomes a concern when you have a very small population (let's say a 100 000 people or less) that's isolated from other populations. There's no way this plan would ever pose a serious threat to human biodiversity.

The Spanish and the Portuguese went to the Americas and literally mixed the natives out of existence in most parts of Latin America, yet this didn't kill human biodiversity as it would've according to your logic. It was eugenic for Latin America, and it didn't harm the Spanish and Portuguese in Europe since the mixing with Amerindians only occured in the Americas.

.

We should imo strive to improve the genetic stock of Africans and other races

I agree, eugenics should be implemented worldwide, to select for the people of the highest genetic quality within every race. This would improve living standards everywhere, and therefore also further mitigate the mass-migation from non-whites into white countries.

A time will come when intermixing will become necessary for us to survive as a species, but that time is not now

There will never be a time when us whites will need to mix ourselves out of existence in order to survive, unless in a worst case scenario where the total white population somehow becomes so small that it's literally the only way to avoid inbreeding-induced extinction. There's more than enough biodiversity within the white race, and even if we had a rigorous eugenics program there still would be. You're really underestimating the amount of human biodiversity there truly is.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This plan wouldn't transfer any more non-white genes into the white gene pool than is already happening, it would only transfer more white genes into non-white gene pools.

Whites are more likely to reproduce with mixed-blacks than they are with blacks. Reproduction with mixed-blacks will introduce black genes into the white population.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's assuming a lot the those half-whites would be immigrating to white countries. Even if they did, them race-mixing with whites would only make pure white people more pro-white, since the kind of white people (especially women) who race-mix tend to be more anti-white than white people in general and those would be filtered out of the white gene pool. White people barely race-mix anyways (despite all the pro-miscegenation propaganda in targeted at white people in movies and commercials); non-white immigration, low white birthrates and high non-white birthrates are far bigger threats to the white race.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They wouldn't have to immigrate. Genes can propagate from border to border to border to border.
If you're from Denmark, you'd simply have to breed with a German. This German had a parent from Austria. With a parent from Italy. With a parent from North Africa etc.
Because you increase the white %, you lower the barrier (build bridges), increasing the transfer rate of nonwhite genes. This German you're now mixing with has 1% black genes. Her parent. 2%. Her parents parent 4%. From italy 8%. From north africa 16%. Parents from north africa, 32% etc.
The more gradual, the less barrier, the higher the transfer rate, etc.

Mixing is really hurtful for whites.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If the mixing will be this indirect, the non-white admixture will be so diluted once it reaches white countries that it has become negligible. And even that can be mitigated by having strongly enforced outer borders around majority white areas (such as Europe, the white parts of North America and the white parts of South America), as well as by eugenics programs that prioritize more racially pure white people over less racially pure white people. We have much bigger fish to fry than a few Germans potentially having 1% negroid admixture due to an indirect gene flow from Africa via Southern Europe.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

...