Blacks kill and burn their own cities in SA, whites physically resist and kill some of them

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They didn't just 'decide' to hand it over. The world basically forced them into it. Look at the ridiculous Anti Aparthied propaganda blitz and sanctions they were getting before they ended it. Not to mention all the fucking bombings and violence. Granted I would have rather watched them take a stand like the Rhodesian did instead of give in but I'm not going to sit here from the west and judge them. There wasn't really one nation in the world except for maybe Israel that supported the apartheid gov and even Israel was just a fake fairweather friend that wanted to sell them guns. They also had a front row seat for watching the world turn on Rhodesia and they knew the same thing would happen to them.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They were tricked into ending apartheid. De Klerk didn't say that he'd end apartheid during the election but he did anyways after getting to power. Just another gift from democracy.

The state was perfectly viable, the issue was that big business in SA didn't like the sanctions and wanted to do business with the west. They bought off the political establishment and church.

The churches were instrumental in getting the Afrikaaners to accept black rule. They were bought off by Jewish money like the Oppenheimers. Now the Oppenheimers themselves are being forced to leave SA due to endless violence and dysfunction.

SA is a lesson in why Christianity and democracy cannot be trusted. Both have time and time again folded to the whims of big business and international Jewry.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SA is a lesson in why Christianity and democracy cannot be trusted. Both have time and time again folded to the whims of big business and international Jewry.

The same can be said of monarchy

[–]Node 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Submitting was a mistake, but their worst mistake was to stay after turning the country over to the negro.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agreed, but many did leave. It might have been a good move to turn the country over and then just use the slow collapse period to get out.

From what I understand there are still left wing white people living in south Africa. Before all this violence I've seen college age white south Africans sitting at a cafe in a documentary talking like american progressives. Those folks I have ZERO sympathy for. Those folks are getting what they deserve right now. The Boer and right wing whites though I have sympathy for. I hope they can get through this safely and I hope that if there's a lull in the violence we can get them out of south Africa fast before the famine sets in. No white person will be safe in South Africa after the grain stores start running low and millions of Africans start starving.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've known a couple White African Americans from that time period.

As for the remainers, the position they've put themselves in is pretty frustrating.