Is a constitutional republic a bad form of government?

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

All that matters really is the people under that system. It's actually kind of pathetic to be endlessly squabbling over these kind of details. America was a Constitutional Republic built by Whites and for Whites and became one of the most prosperous and world defining civilizations on Earth -- for good and bad mind you.

Liberia is a country fashioned by Whites for Blacks based on the exact same model of government with the exact same constitution and it's a failed state of competing warlords with some cannibalism on the side. You can't just give Black people a constitution and a Republic and expect them to magically change 70,000 years of differential evolution. Conversely White people largely seem to make pretty decent civilizations -- most, not all for any 'ashkully what about x' folks reading this -- whatever the technicalities of their system are.

tl;dr the quality of the population matters, all else is secondary.

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

All that matters really is the people under that system. It's actually kind of pathetic to be endlessly squabbling over these kind of details.

This implies that governmental systems have no effect whatsoever on the moral, social, physical, cultural, military or economic qualities of the people living under them.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No effect is going too far but I'm saying it's of secondary importance to the quality of the population.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If the state promotes ignorance and vice, do you think that will not make direct impact on the quality of the population, especially in the long term? 75% of Americans today are overweight, do you think that they could be even remotely compared with the Americans from just a few decades ago, in terms of health and athleticism?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If the state promotes ignorance and vice, do you think that will not make direct impact on the quality of the population, especially in the long term?

Absolutely. In fact I was having that very discussion with some people in another thread who thought that the state couldn't enforce any standards on its people. Still some kind of lingering libertarian priors going on there. However if I'm understanding where you're going with this I would say that a Constitutional Republic could if it so chose enforce all sorts of things or at least attempt to just like a constitutional monarchy or a more authoritarian state could as well.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if it so chose

This part is very important. How is this choice made? In autocratic systems, the direction provided by the autocrat forms the basis of state policy and determines the direction in which the energies of the state and the peoples are applied. Other systems, including Constitutional republics, turn issues like these into a matter of debate. This inevitably fosters disagreement, division and eventually, internal conflict, the result of which can never be wholly certain. A Constitutional republic has all the administrative tools of an autocratic state at its disposal, but its ability to wield those tools are constrained by the potential for division and conflict first among the elite and eventually across all of society. We have seen many cases of this in modern history.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

failed state of competing warlords with some cannibalism on the side.

Lol, we wuz kangz. It's the real Wakanda.