Is a constitutional republic a bad form of government?

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Is a constitutional republic a bad form of government? If ya, Why?

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

All that matters really is the people under that system. It's actually kind of pathetic to be endlessly squabbling over these kind of details. America was a Constitutional Republic built by Whites and for Whites and became one of the most prosperous and world defining civilizations on Earth -- for good and bad mind you.

Liberia is a country fashioned by Whites for Blacks based on the exact same model of government with the exact same constitution and it's a failed state of competing warlords with some cannibalism on the side. You can't just give Black people a constitution and a Republic and expect them to magically change 70,000 years of differential evolution. Conversely White people largely seem to make pretty decent civilizations -- most, not all for any 'ashkully what about x' folks reading this -- whatever the technicalities of their system are.

tl;dr the quality of the population matters, all else is secondary.

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

All that matters really is the people under that system. It's actually kind of pathetic to be endlessly squabbling over these kind of details.

This implies that governmental systems have no effect whatsoever on the moral, social, physical, cultural, military or economic qualities of the people living under them.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No effect is going too far but I'm saying it's of secondary importance to the quality of the population.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If the state promotes ignorance and vice, do you think that will not make direct impact on the quality of the population, especially in the long term? 75% of Americans today are overweight, do you think that they could be even remotely compared with the Americans from just a few decades ago, in terms of health and athleticism?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If the state promotes ignorance and vice, do you think that will not make direct impact on the quality of the population, especially in the long term?

Absolutely. In fact I was having that very discussion with some people in another thread who thought that the state couldn't enforce any standards on its people. Still some kind of lingering libertarian priors going on there. However if I'm understanding where you're going with this I would say that a Constitutional Republic could if it so chose enforce all sorts of things or at least attempt to just like a constitutional monarchy or a more authoritarian state could as well.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if it so chose

This part is very important. How is this choice made? In autocratic systems, the direction provided by the autocrat forms the basis of state policy and determines the direction in which the energies of the state and the peoples are applied. Other systems, including Constitutional republics, turn issues like these into a matter of debate. This inevitably fosters disagreement, division and eventually, internal conflict, the result of which can never be wholly certain. A Constitutional republic has all the administrative tools of an autocratic state at its disposal, but its ability to wield those tools are constrained by the potential for division and conflict first among the elite and eventually across all of society. We have seen many cases of this in modern history.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

failed state of competing warlords with some cannibalism on the side.

Lol, we wuz kangz. It's the real Wakanda.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The other comment is right: it's what the people do that determines whether most forms of government turn out good or bad.

But if you want a white pill (clear pill? whatever the any-race nationalist one works with), then you might consider that there probably is a state structure appropriate for any given race or tribe to thrive under. Any advocate for racial self-governance (e.g., GLR) acknowledges that the form of governance will vary between peoples and places.

So, is a constitutional republic doing bad things to you or me? Sure. Does that make it bad? It might. Or maybe it's just not right for the demographics in which we find ourselves, in this Current Year 1965+X.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is a constitutional republic a bad form of government?

Not if it clearly enshrines one racial group as the core of the nation. It should probably limit immigration from the start and have mechanisms for suppressing subversion.

I would also say that there are really no good or bad forms of government. Some types of people can thrive under almost any government system. Other types of people struggle to govern themselves.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We once had a white nation in the united states. The Naturalization Act of 1790 limited citizenship to free white persons of good character. There is no longer a nation here.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

An overwhelmingly white constitutional republic with white racial supremacy, the right for whites to free speech, private property and to bear arms, the right for all citizens to defend oneself, one's friends, relatives and ones property, the promotion of nationalism and traditional family values, a sound eugenics program, a ban on predatory exploitative economic practices, a ban on anti-white or otherwise culturally subversive media and political and academic activity, a ban on unjust privacy violations, the guaranteed wellbeing of all citizens, and immigration laws to ensure the preservation of the overwhelming white majority enshrined into its constitution could work.

This is what I envision a potential future white ethnostate should be like, whether it will be located in the white parts of what's currently the US, in the Sahara, in Siberia, in Australia, in the southern (whitest) parts of South America, or wherever it will be located.

[–]WhiteZealotWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Any good system of government must give the people the ability to reject any law by popular vote. The West would have never allowed non-white immigration if it required the approval of the people.

The popular vote should be done on a globally-decentralized blockchain so there's no chance of fraud, and it should use zkSNARK tech to ensure anonymity.

When a law is rejected by a popular vote of 3/5 or more, every member of the legislature that voted for that law would be immediately removed from office and barred from ever holding office again.

[–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. It may work better in a racially homogenous state with proper restrictions on who can vote (IQ, political literacy, etc.) but even then the nigh-universal issues with Republicanism will be omnipresent.

The best system is to have a constitutional/semi-constitutional monarchy (i.e. German Empire or the old British Empire) or some dictatorial equivalent where a competently elected body shares power with an unelected or permanently elected leader. This ensures you represent the citizenry properly while still giving the government enough power that it can perform its duties to a proper extent.