Canada is under attack. This is how White people are responding.

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from self.debatealtright

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Where's the evidence that this alleged abuse was any more severe than what any other child in care would have gone through in the 19th century? Also just finding graves does not mean a murder or even a crime has taken place. As for not learning about their own culture well yes it was the entire point of bringing them to the schools in the first place. Many similar measures were adopted here in Australia towards our aboriginal population. Despite the hysterical and ridiculous claims by usually the left on these types of measures no this wasn't some wicked genocidal scheme. In fact it was usually done with the welfare of the child in mind given the conditions the native children were growing up in. Now however misguided I think those policies are I've read about the conditions many of the aboriginals were living in before they were 'stolen' and hell on earth doesn't even begin to describe it. I'd be willing to bet that the conditions the native children in Canada were living in were comparable.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Now however misguided I think those policies are I've read about the conditions many of the aboriginals were living in before they were 'stolen' and hell on earth doesn't even begin to describe it. I'd be willing to bet that the conditions the native children in Canada were comparable.

Before Europeans arrived on the American continent, the "peaceful" Indians were use to sacrificing children and eating them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice_in_Aztec_culture#Tlaloc

Archaeologists have found the remains of at least 42 children sacrificed to Tlaloc at the Great Pyramid of Tenochtitlan. Many of the children suffered from serious injuries before their death, they would have to have been in significant pain as Tlaloc required the tears of the young as part of the sacrifice. The priests made the children cry during their way to immolation: a good omen that Tlaloc would wet the earth in the raining season.[42] In the Florentine Codex, also known as General History of the Things of New Spain, Sahagún wrote: According to the accounts of some, they assembled the children whom they slew in the first month, buying them from their mothers. And they went on killing them in all the feasts which followed, until the rains really began. And thus they slew some on the first month, named Quauitleua; and some in the second, named Tlacaxipeualiztli; and some in the third, named Tocoztontli; and others in the fourth, named Ueitocoztli; so that until the rains began in abundance, in all the feasts they sacrificed children.[43]

No doubt if we had left them alone, they would go back to doing this again. Lol.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Before Europeans arrived on the American continent, the "peaceful" Indians were use to sacrificing children and eating them.

The aztec weren't in Canada. The important thing to understand with native nations is that they are all quite culturally different. Do you have evidence that Canadian native tribes were sacrificing their children? The Sioux and other plains tribes were certainly not engaging in this. I'm not sure about the Canadian prairie tribes but I would assume they were closer to plains tribes than 'aztec' tribes.

Obviously the native groups were very different then anglos but it's silly to speak about natives as some homogeneous group. That makes right wingers look stupid (sometimes I wonder if this is really your goal here). Republicans might lack historical nuance but as you've been told a hundred times already the alt right is not a conservative or republican group. It's a third position.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Obviously the native groups were very different then anglos but it's silly to speak about natives as some homogeneous group.

They're closer to each other, than say actual Asians or Blacks.

And Human sacrifices were found all over the continent. I have no idea why you think [the rest of] North America would be exempt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice#North_America

The peoples of the Southeastern United States known as the Mississippian culture (800 to 1600 CE) have been suggested to have practiced human sacrifice, because some artifacts have been interpreted as depicting such acts.[92] Mound 72 at Cahokia (the largest Mississippian site), located near modern St. Louis, Missouri, was found to have numerous pits filled with mass burials thought to have been retainer sacrifices. One of several similar pit burials had the remains of 53 young women who had been strangled and neatly arranged in two layers. Another pit held 39 men, women and children who showed signs of dying a violent death before being unceremoniously dumped into the pit. Several bodies showed signs of not having been fully dead when buried and of having tried to claw their way to the surface. On top of these people another group had been neatly arranged on litters made of cedar poles and cane matting. Another group of four individuals found in the mound were interred on a low platform, with their arms interlocked. They had had their heads and hands removed. The most spectacular burial at the mound is the "Birdman burial". This was the burial of a tall man in his 40s, now thought to have been an important early Cahokian ruler. He was buried on an elevated platform covered by a bed of more than 20,000 marine-shell disc beads arranged in the shape of a falcon,[93] with the bird's head appearing beneath and beside the man's head, and its wings and tail beneath his arms and legs. Below the birdman was another man, buried facing downward. Surrounding the birdman were several other retainers and groups of elaborate grave goods.[94][95] A ritual sacrifice of retainers and commoners upon the death of an elite personage is also attested in the historical record among the last remaining fully Mississippian culture, the Natchez. Upon the death of "Tattooed Serpent" in 1725, the war chief and younger brother of the "Great Sun" or Chief of the Natchez; two of his wives, one of his sisters (nicknamed La Glorieuse by the French), his first warrior, his doctor, his head servant and the servant's wife, his nurse, and a craftsman of war clubs all chose to die and be interred with him, as well as several old women and an infant who was strangled by his parents.[96] Great honor was associated with such a sacrifice, and their kin were held in high esteem.[97] After a funeral procession with the chief's body carried on a litter made of cane matting and cedar poles ended at the temple (which was located on top of a low platform mound), the retainers, with their faces painted red and drugged with large doses of nicotine, were ritually strangled. Tattooed Serpent was then buried in a trench inside the temple floor and the retainers were buried in other locations atop the mound surrounding the temple. After a few months' time the bodies were dis-interred and their defleshed bones were stored as bundle burials in the temple.[96] The Pawnee practiced an annual Morning Star Ceremony, which included the sacrifice of a young girl. Though the ritual continued, the sacrifice was discontinued in the 19th century.[98]

Republicans might lack historical nuance but as you've been told a hundred times already the alt right is not a conservative or republican group. It's a third position.

It doesn't stand to reason being alt-right/third position doesn't have its own nuances. Even when it comes to history, I would argue all sides of the political spectrum pick and choose which side they prefer to focus on.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They're closer to each other, than say actual Asians or Blacks.

Depends. If you look at a genetic map of all native groups in north and south america there's quite a wide genetic variation.

Check out this video at the one minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpE7-sQos9M

The confusion comes because not just one tribe came over the Beringia land bridge. Also not all those groups that traveled over the bridge racially mixed. North and South america are quite large so some stayed isolated from other tribes. There was a european skeleton found in a stream with arrows in it so we know some Europeans crossed the bridge as well.

Everything is even more complicated because modern academia plays games. Every time they find a skeleton on tribal land the 'tribe' gets to decide on the testing and if those results will be shared. We already know of one incident where a white man was found on tribal land and the tribe covered it up because it would mean they were not the 'first nation' in the area. There are a lot of politics involved. I'd also encourage you to look into the Solutrean Hypothesis. It gets even more complicated when you start looking into the fact that giants (8 foot and up) all over north america and are still being found today but frequently get covered up because they don't jive with the current academic explanation of north and south american genetics. Politics and the keeping up the anti white narrative is more important then truth for the current commissars that control us.

Even when it comes to history, I would argue all sides of the political spectrum pick and choose which side they prefer to focus on.

Many whites have a Faustian spirit. Truth, fidelity to an idea, and exploration at all costs even if it hurts yourself or your tribe. This just isn't a common quality in many other racial groups. It lets white be creative and break new ground but can also be used against us so it's a double edge sword. Sam Dickson does a good job talking about the pros and cons of the white faustian spirit in his chat with Jared Taylor a few years back. Have you watched that video? Regardless I would disagree with your statement that whites are just as ethnocentric and power hunger as other races when it comes to historical research and politics.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The confusion comes because not just one tribe came over the Beringia land bridge. Also not all those groups that traveled over the bridge racially mixed. North and South america are quite large so some stayed isolated from other tribes. There was a european skeleton found in a stream with arrows in it so we know some Europeans crossed the bridge as well.

Edit: I'm going by the Indians who are alive today. If they found European bones, then those people are still dead. But North American & South American tribes are nearly indistinguishable from one another.

https://www.google.com/search?q=amazon+indians&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA871CA871&sxsrf=ALeKk03PnyyOy1k7w2cZ_4BEkPIoYaNqjA:1625334638105&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi85fqtu8fxAhVZbc0KHZWiCHEQ_AUoAXoECAsQAw&biw=2560&bih=1297#imgrc=XKcPhoqID8PXaM

https://www.google.com/search?q=aboriginal+tribes+canada&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwidruOuu8fxAhWHgE4HHS2lBYkQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=aboriginal+tribes+canada&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjoECCMQJzoECAAQQzoFCAAQsQM6AggAOggIABCxAxCDAToHCAAQsQMQQzoECAAQGFDPnAJYu7wCYO29AmgAcAB4AIABYIgBuQ2SAQIyMpgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=b6PgYN26MYeBuuoPrcqWyAg&bih=1297&biw=2560&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA871CA871#imgrc=tCfkOV_SjKOCbM

Same jet black hair, leathery tanned skin, Asian-esque eyes, etc.

Edit: For the Indians living in Canada, their skin is lighter because they live farther away from the equator. Same phenomenon can be observed in China or Japan and even Africa (i.e the San people of South Africa are no where as dark as the Nilotic tribes of Sudan. But both them are still "black" or the same race).

The only Europeans I'm aware of who came to the Americas before Colombus, where the Vikings. But the historical "Vinland" was basically the surrounding areas of modern day Quebec. There's no records they attempted to colonize the entire continent before the first Spanish Conquistadors had made similar attempts.