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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks for this. I'll look at the 170 countries. The approach is however obviously biased, and does not appear to balance other factors that have caused problems - especially in southern hemisphere countries - many of which have been in debt to northern hemisphere countries since the end of colonial occupation, or have had - as in Eastern Europe, China and South Asia - extreme income inequality and political corruption. It's not that he's cherry-picking countries, but that a study of ethnic conflicts since the 1990 in all countries are due to new pressures in those places and thus they cannot be exemplars for critiques of diversity during this period. My work centers on pre-20th century approaches, evidence for which ranges from archaeological discoveries, to new regional histories, for trade routes across Eurasia and around Africa and the New World (Samarkand, Damascus, Beijing, Ghandara, around the Mediterranean, Cordoba, and many other cosmopolitan areas where there had been ethnic diversity and exchanges in trade, ideas, technology, etc). The role of diversity in the successful developments in these areas is the subject of recent scholarship. One popular book is: 'Metropolis: A History of the City, Humankind's Greatest Invention.' (There is a free copy online and at libraries.) There is much more work to be done. Even if there isn't much diversity - for example in Japan where there has been a rising number of dozens of weddings with Russian women in the past 2 or 3 decades - this is still an example of diversification. Recent scholarship shows that 'Vikings' were somewhat more diverse than previously believed, due to their human trafficking. The same can be said for what happened during the Khanate invasions, and the subsequent centuries of human trafficking that reached well into what is now Poland. Cosmopolitan regions around the Mediterranien have been known for their diverse populations, some of which has been the subject of research at MUCEM: https://www.mucem.org/en/the-mucem . I am not sure if this addresses everything, but I'll continue to look a the sources you've provided.

[–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The approach is however obviously biased, and does not appear to balance other factors that have caused problems - especially in southern hemisphere countries - many of which have been in debt to northern hemisphere countries since the end of colonial occupation, or have had - as in Eastern Europe, China and South Asia - extreme income inequality and political corruption. It's not that he's cherry-picking countries, but that a study of ethnic conflicts since the 1990 in all countries are due to new pressures in those places and thus they cannot be exemplars for critiques of diversity during this period

First, colonial debt is a myth. Quite contrary, third world countries get generous payments in foreign aid from the West. And second, how is any of this relevant? Vanhanen tested how economic variables contribute to ethnic conflicts independently of diversity and they basically do not.

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First, colonial debt is a myth. Quite contrary, third world countries get generous payments in foreign aid from the West.

This is how the IMF and World Bank have arranged loans for those countries, as has China in recent years. Many of those countries have no control of the profits from their resources. It's well-known.

And second, how is any of this relevant?

We're discussing the role of diversity in regional developments.

Vanhanen tested how economic variables contribute to ethnic conflicts independently of diversity and they basically do not.

If that's his finding, it runs counter to the usual interpretation of the reasons for the difficulties of those people. Ethnic differences are never as informative of economic and social change as are other - much more obvious - economic, political and religious developments - in that order. Vanhanen's work is interesting, but it's definitely not the last word on anything, especially when one considered the role of obvious bias.