Slavs aren't white.

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[–]Richard_Parker 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I am by all accounts a Nazi sympathizer, an unabashed wehraboo, but am erudite enough to understand that Hitler was a tyrant, was not pan-European but a German nationalist who brutalized other European peoples. Oh and his military blunders went a long way to Germany losing the war. That is the tragedy of the fascist even national socialist cause.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

wehraboo

Ah, a man of culture. From one ww2 lover to another, what in your opinion was Germany's main mistake and what step could've led them to win the war?

My opinion is that Germany needed to begin total mobilization in 1940 or 41. By the time they mobilized fully in 1943, the war was already lost. Huge equipment surplus could've won the war in 1941-42 when it was still winnable

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pming you soon. Very short answer. Hitler first and foremost. Should have invaded Soviet Union as liberators, treat European Russians better (european Ukranians were at times brutalized, other times collaborated with). Not pressing at Dunkirk. Halifax almost prevailed even with Dunkirk. Will write more in pm later.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Didn't he have pretty sound reasons for not approving of the people who were oppressing his fellow Germans?

Pulling his punches with the Brits in particular seems like it was so inappropriately non-brutal that it lost the war and resulted in millions of German deaths.

[–]Richard_Parker 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How did everyday, European, gentile Ukranians, Russians, Czechs and others deserve such brutality?

If Hitler and Co had taken the proper tact, and went about the invasion of Russia as liberators, everyday Russians and Ukranians would have revolted and Germany would have won by Christmas.

That is not say Churchill and Co were any better. They were not. Just finished a book called German Voices that compiles interviews and letters from Germans who lived during the era. An officer the author describes as a true believer talked about how entrenched plutocracy kept Britain from making peace with Germany, and he is right. Does not make Hitler's many military blunders or moral outrages any less of a disaster.

[–]TheJamesRocket 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

entrenched plutocracy kept Britain from making peace with Germany, and he is right

Indeed. Hitler offered to sign an armistice with Britain on three separate occasions, each time after he had won a resounding victory. The first offer was after the fall of Poland. The second offer was after the fall of France and the Low countrys. The third offer was after the fall of Yugoslavia and Greece. Each time, the British rejected his peace offers.