How come [modern] Egypt isn't more relevant?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wtf are you even saying. Yom Kippur was the last war Egypt and Israel fought. Israel (+US/ZOG) won. Sinai was returned to Egypt 5 years later in exchange for normalized relations and a peace treaty with Israel. What this even has to do with your point anymore I dont know but in any case you are wrong about Egypt fighting another war with Israel alone and somehow getting the Sinai from that

No, Yom Kippur IS the war I'm talking about that Israel came the closest to defeat and had to offer the Sinai back in exchange for peace. Israel invaded their neighbors in 1967 and took several territories with them. How do you think they got the Sinai in the first place?

Dude, how long have you been here? Practically everything the US does in the middle east is at the behest of Israel and their security. Just because the US won't commit to troops on the ground in this one instance doesn't change this, they didn't have to. They just replaced all of Israel's lost materiel and lobbied internationally on their behalf. Who was Secretary of State and Sec of Defense at the time of YK? Jews Kissinger and Schlesinger. Who are holding these cabinet positions today JPG ? Who was leading the office of special plans that falsely claimed Iraq had nuclear weapons? Oh it was Douglas Feith and Paul Wolfowitz - both Jews! Oy gevalt! The list goes on. Do you really think this is all one big cohencidence?

Who cares about these guys? They weren't fighting a war that lead to Israel completely pulling out from territory they took from Egypt...

Well, "yes"- but just because the Soviets were willing to opportunistically play wargames with the US does nothing to invalidate the fact the US is Israel's lapdog, or that Egypt has been effectively geopolitically neutralized by US involvement and continued war materiel support to Israel

You're treating U.S involment as some kind of confirmed victory, but that wasn't true when they invaded Cuba. Or Vietnam. Both governments that had the support of the Soviets. Similarly, there's no reason why Egypt had to give a damn if America got involved or not. Then the Soviets would have responded as well since they were their allies.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, Yom Kippur IS the war I'm talking about

Oh I see now - because the UAR didn't exist de jure during Yom Kippur, you're trying to say that the tendency of Arabs to block up into empire isn't true/a strength, because Egypt got a better deal after YK and not the Six-Day War

The main problems with this are 1) Syria had already withdrawn from the UAR by the time the Six-day-war happened 2) Syria and Egypt (and Jordan and others) did fight together during SDW and YK, even if they weren't the same countries. Arabs are obviously stronger together than they are apart (like anyone else) and just because the UAR failed politically doesn't mean they won't work together and the rule isn't generally true - you have thousands of years of Arab history under the Umayyad/Abassid/Ottomon empires to contend with. This is all just so tangential to the main point anyways Egypt is geopolitically neutralized by ZOG. Arab empires are prevented from happening primarily b/c they would be bad for israel

Who cares about these guys? 

Yeah who cares why the US is constantly involved in trillion dollar wars and gayops on the other side of the world

You're treating U.S involment as some kind of confirmed victory

They did win because of this. Or at least stalemated. Again, Israel traded the relatively worthless Sinai for the first peace treaty with an Arab country and diplomatic recognition. That's not an L.

Inb4 Suez

Then the Soviets would have responded as well since they were their allies.

They can't/wouldnt rely on that now. Soviets are gone and Israel is entrenched as a real country w/ US support

Every war is different. Bottom line is, the reasons why Egypt isn't more relevant are 1) Islam, 2) IQ 3) mostly a shit desert and 4) not allowed to be part of an Arab Empire (like they normally would be) because ZOG/Israel

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They did win because of this. Or at least stalemated. Again, Israel traded the relatively worthless Sinai for the first peace treaty with an Arab country and diplomatic recognition. That's not an L.

The Sinai is bigger than the territory they occupy from Syria and Palestine. They were even in the process of moving Israelis into the area to started colonizing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamit

Calling the loss of Sinai "worthless" is a huge stretch or that Israel didn't come out the loser from the war.

Yeah who cares why the US is constantly involved in trillion dollar wars and gayops on the other side of the world

They didn't win so their involvement meant nothing.

They can't/wouldnt rely on that now. Soviets are gone and Israel is entrenched as a real country w/ US support

They got back their territory and Israel never tried invading them, so calling in the Soviets was not necessary. Still doesn't explain why Egypt couldn't have remained more relevant in the region.