Creating an all new White state is more realistic than ending immigration or deportations.

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[–]Nasser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'll give you a full reply to you later but I'm asking what the fuck do you want me and other nationalists to do?Just sit around like complacent normies and not put any kind of effort into fighting for our people?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'll give you a full reply to you later but I'm asking what the fuck do you want me and other nationalists to do?Just sit around like complacent normies and not put any kind of effort into fighting for our people?

No, I'm even suggesting more pragmatic ideas to preserve White people. I view the issue similar to Climate Change. People can still fight it, but scientists have been very clear about the "point of no return" in which some damage is permanent.

Canada and the U.S have past such white "tipping points" already. But for a lot of European countries, there's still plenty of time to slow the damage. Some White European countries don't even have a lot of non-white immigrants at all and thus, the majority of attention should be going towards there instead.

[–]Nasser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Canada maybe but I don't think so for the US.Trump's victory in 2016 shows that White populism and anti immigration sentiment do exist within the country and can succeed with will and coordination.There are 200 million White Americans and the majority of non White populace is clustered mainly in states like California for example.It is far from over.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Trump was never a White Nationalist. His 2020 polling even showed he lost more White followers compared to his first 2016 run. And you seem to ignore that 200 million White Americans don't share the exact same belief. At least half are Liberal and got Biden into power. The other half may be "civic nationalists" and oppose illegal immigration, but they're not against the millions of legal ones who still come to the U.S every year. I'm not making this stuff up. This all comes from real data sets.

[–]Nasser 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The majority of Whites vote Republican.The reason there was a swing towards Biden was because of Trump's behavior,reaction to covid and in effectiveness as a leader.Civic Nationalism is better than conservatism and liberalism and is a stepping stone to identitarianism.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Civic nationalism says "as long as they come here legally, they're citizens!". Liberalism says "Blacks/Asians/Hispanics are distinct groups that are oppressed". If you ask me, Liberalism is more identarian. But regardless, neither party have white nationalism added as their platform. Voting Democrat or Republican does not guarantee any racial breakup of the United States.

[–]antireddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, I'm even suggesting more pragmatic ideas to preserve White people. I view the issue similar to Climate Change. People can still fight it, but scientists have been very clear about the "point of no return" in which some damage is permanent.

You have an obvious agenda. So stating we are past some point of no return is a cope on your part. You want it to be past the point of no return.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You have an obvious agenda. So stating we are past some point of no return is a cope on your part. You want it to be past the point of no return.

Take a look at this city in Canada. Especially the second paragraph.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond,_British_Columbia#Demographics

60% of the population were never even born in the country. The "point of no return" is a scientific term referring to situations like this where White people don't even live in the same cities they founded. Making any other conclusions is your mistake.

That doesn't mean all of Canada has to be like this or that there are no White countries without significant immigrant populations. Quite the opposite. But I am saying is be more realistic with your goals. All the urban population centers with high levels of diversity are never going to vote to remove themselves from the country. Want another example? Faith Goldy ran for Toronto mayor in 2018 with the goal of decreasing immigrants, but she only got 3.4% of the vote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Toronto_mayoral_election#Results

Again, she was not even close into making Canada some kind of White majority haven again. The political support for it is dead in the water.