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[–]MATKINS 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

99% of the US military aren't "Chads."

Fighter pilots, Navy SEALs, Special Forces guys, etc might be, but the average soldier is not.

US military culture has changed a lot since the days of WWII and Vietnam, back in the days when a judge would offer criminals the choice between jail or enlisting in the Army or the Marines. There was a more working class masculine culture. It's all about diversity and credentialism now, which is something they brag about. You've probably seen military supporters brag about how most Americans are unfit for military service, and think they're just referring to fatasses or whatever....... but men like John Basilone and Audie Murphy would be rejected if they tried to enlist today.

[–]angryturtle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's all about diversity and credentialism now

Is this true? What are you basing this on?

John Basilone and Audie Murphy would be rejected if they tried to enlist today.

Rejected why?

[–]MATKINS 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The US military is as big on diversity as every other US institution now. They want more women, LGBT and non-whites higher up in the ranks, holding prestigious commands and in prestigious MOS fields.

The credentialism is downstream from the warped American worship of higher education. Traditionally only officers needed a degree, but now a degree and even postgraduate degrees are expected if you want to climb the NCO ranks and make it a career.

Rejected why?

They never finished high school. They'd be considered "uneducated" grugs. Not only that, but Basilone and many guys who served in WWII got up to all sorts of fucking around on liberty like fighting with and stealing shit from the MPs and officers, etc. That's less tolerated these days.

I get that it's a bad idea to recruit irredeemable pieces of shit, but the military has historically been a place where a young man would get a second chance to be a good citizen. The famous former US Marine actor (the strict drill instructor in Full Metal Jacket) R. Lee Ermey used to be a serial criminal before a judge gave him a choice between jail and the service. Nowadays they're more interested in a minority XYZ studies graduate.