Richard Spencer - I look at Kyle Rittenhouse and I want to beat him up

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[–]Minedwe 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

If anything, we have MORE in common with ChristDems/Christcons than secularist cuckservatives, because at least usually those people are socially right and economically left.

Overall, I think Spencer is very cringe and should be avoided. However this 'muh federal agent" shit is retarded, the Feds would be pushing MORE extreme shit they could use to demonize and arrest us, not push liberalism to attempt to "de-radicalize" people. Normal, stupid people or unenlightened people do in fact exist, even in our movement or sattelite movements to ours.

However Spencer definitely is unenlightened and straight-up retarded sometimes (increasingly, more like "oftentimes"...) and says dumb shit. Mainly I think he's trying to grift to keep his normie presence and censors himself and pushes stuff he probably doesn't truly believe in, just so he can appear mostly normal and stomachable and can grift support and shekels off the most people.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Is there not a photo of Spencer with Laura Bush?

[–]Minedwe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Holy shit, I didn't even know about thta...

But the point still stands: If he was a fed, he'd be trying to promote wignat shit to get our movement shut down and our people arrested, no?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes and no, some FEDS are just theere to discredit and surveil. Others are just just used as frontmen to provide examples for the corporate media. I'm pretty sure he and Lauren "Southern" not her last name and she's Jewish, did a recent documentary about the alt-"Jew" right.

[–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Definitely fishy. If he was a fed I wouldn't be surprised. I just thought it was unlikely for the reasons I stated, however your reasoning also makes quite a bit of sense.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

His wife was a eurasianist and quite fond of Dugin.

http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/richard-spencer-2-800x445.jpg

Spencer:

And we are a kind of revolutionary movement that is analogous to the Bolsheviks.

Ex-wife:

http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/CyDr-r4UUAA0CBg.jpg

http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ByzantinaSpencerBush.jpg

Nina can be seen here wearing the cross of St. George, given by the Russian state as an honor, while she and Richard relaxed by the lake with former First Lady Laura Bush.

There are many connections to Russia and Skull and Bones which multilateralists like John Kerry (Jewish), and Bush came out of. Viligante Intelligence did a great video about the relationship between Putin and Bush.

What I think is happening here, is that a lot of these alt-right Duginists and crypto-Bolsheviks are either FEDS, or working for the Eurasian order. Needless, to say, many of them love Israel.

http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/bq-5c11209fa74b3-1024x1024.jpeg

Nordfront gives favorable coverage to Dugin without pointing out he is a fucking Bolshevik:

https://www.nordfront.se/alexander-dugin-om-ryssland-mot-vastvarlden.smr

Daily Stormer: https://dailystormer.name/tag/alexander-dugin/

[–]MATKINS 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Richard Spencer supports pan-Europeanism and sees small state European nationalism as futile (which it is), yep, but not a "Eurasian" order. There was a tape of him leaked years ago saying he wanted Europeans to retake Constantinople and expel the Turks.

As for accusations about him being fed, you'll need more solid proof than guilt by association. He's not a working-class average joe. It's no secret that he's rich and from a fairly well-connected background, he went to prep school, went to good universities, wrote for conservative magazines in the past, etc. It's not unlikely when you've been in those circles that you'll meet certain notable people.

If he's a fed, they're not doing a good job. He's not the most popular figure in the movement and apparently, they've forgotten to tell YouTube that he's Kosher for their platform.

Agree with him. Disagree with him. Whatever, but this is one of the things that pisses me off about the movement, people can't grasp nuance and can't handle disagreement, so they just make up shit about them being feds/shills/whatever without evidence.

I disagree with the America First/Nick Fuentes crowd on most things. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't suspicious about how relatively accepted they are by mainstream(ish) conservatives, in fact America First looks exactly what I'd imagine an alt-right deradicalization project to look like (weaning off young men from focusing on racial issues to GOP conservatism like bitching about abortion and 'based black people', even Milo publicly stated this), but I don't spread rumours about Fuentes being a fed or controlled opposition, because there is no evidence.

[–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow. Thanks for the info dump, this shit is... worrying to say the least.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Matt Heimbach: https://anaannblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/matthew-heimbach.png?w=300&h=123

I think...

[–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Flying the Reichskriegsflagge within 100 feet of an Israeli flag without denouncing Israel should be punishable by death.

[–]MATKINS 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bullshit. Out of all the people in the movement, Richard Spencer is among the least normie-friendly.

If Richard Spencer just wanted to grift, he would just stick to digestible nationalist hivemind talking points. Trump good (or at least "the lesser of two evils"), Democrats bad, StopTheSteal, EU bad, Brexit good, #BasedHungary, brown immigration bad, Muslims bad, fuck Zionists, race and crime/race and IQ stuff.

This is the stuff that gets more viewers/shekels rolling in because you're just regurgitating shit that people already think and want to hear. This is one of the reasons why people like Nick Fuentes/America First is so popular.

Richard Spencer takes stances that make him more unpopular within the movement, it does not win him friends from the left or normie right who still see him as that Nazi who said "Heil Trump, Heil our people, Heil victory" 4 years ago.

I do think there are fair criticisms to be made of him, I think he can be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, I don't like how he's thrown NJP under the bus (which I do sense is because he hasn't been asked to play a role in it), but I increasingly agree with him and find he often accurately reads and predicts things. He saw the Trump mess for exactly what it was early on while others were spouting shit about "trusting the plan", "give him time", etc. He is right about Europe and the UK.

As for self-censorship, every figure in the movement self-censors, dude.

I don't know where Richard Spencer has "pushed liberalism"... do you mean UBI and forgiving student loan debt and things like that? Those are policies that would help white people start families. He's not a petty racial libertarian who just wants to stop giving free shit to blacks.