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More so among the critical/existential side (Adorno, Sartre, Foucault) and the libertarian (LeVay, Rand). But just a quick search on Reddit shows they're at least willing to entertain him. Heck, even libs I've chatted in real life are immediate to point out how "misinterpreted" he was.

I doubt those libs actually understand him, then. Anyway, Nietzsche did have an impact on the more academic side of leftism, but they only took up his criticisms of morality - they entirely rejected his attempts at constructive work designed to replace that morality. Worse, they didn't even follow through until the end with Nietzsche's criticisms - they only agree with Nietzsche's criticism of morality to the extent that they can impose their own, rather than go beyond good and evil.

Considering how high a pedestal he put sexuality on, I see no contradiction with him and horndogism

What are you referring to here?

And accusations of "baseless resentment and vain collectivism" is the battle cry of every 140 IQ shitlib intellectual

The unspoken qualitative difference here is the criteria for the dismissal - the shitlib intellectual wants to enforce a utilitarian utopia where the GDP line always goes up, whereas Nietzsche wants every worthy individual to live up to his greatest potential and build civilisation alongside others like him, undisturbed by any appeals from below.

The member of the herd has a far more accurate view of the world than the one who tries to rise out of it.

To a large extent, this is a very reasonable argument today. Still, the issue remains that the herd by definition does not govern. It is herded by a shepherd. The values of the shepherd determine the condition of the herd.

Bravery is good. Being something you are not is not good.

The ancient Hellenes would likely question your capacity to engage in any form of higher activity if you shy away from warfare. Typically, the free man in Classical civilisation had one main duty to the state and that was to fight for it. Only the unfree peoples were barred from serving in the army. A heroic disposition was considered a prerequisite for "life" in the proper sense of the word.

Dying for a purposeless cause is not good. How many brave men have sacrificed all they had so GloboHomo can survive for one more day? Which is not to countersignal heroism, but disordered heroism. I'd rather have every single crusader's glory taken away than have whites give away the holy city to God's TRUE chosen people.

What qualifies as "purposeless cause" depends on how far you want to push nihilism. Certainly, it makes no sense to fight for something contrary to your interests, but glory wasn't the main benefit heroes derive from heroic activities. The real benefit of heroism is the challenge, because it brings out an inner strength and self-possession that draws out the best in man. Considered in the right way, this is also what the Will to Power aims at.

In addition to the nonsense listed above (enemies are your best friends, eternal return, trans Nietzscheans, etc) - why would a true Ubermensch have issue with cruelties if it made the strong stronger? What is the Nietzscheanism critique of a Jeffery Epstein, who raped the children of the weak as he accrued billions of dollars, unlimited taboo sex, glory for his country, and eugenic plans in the making? Nietzscheanism is the worst of both worlds - outwardly hostile and amoral, inwardly cowardly and impotent. Moral zeal based on truth and virtue seem to be more impassioning and consistent to me.

The original German phrasing of "Will to Power" refers to power in the abstract sense, not to physical or in some other sense practical power. Being physically strong or having power and influence does not give a man the "will to power", much less make him an Overman. With that said, one of the aforementioned Traditionalist critiques of Nietzsche was precisely that he was too generous with his philosophy - not all people have a noble nature that can be affirmed to the maximum, some people have a decadent, weak and dishonourable nature. To those people, the self-affirmation that Nietzsche promotes would only lead in an even more negative direction.