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[–]Mr_Tee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

for people that cant access it https://sci-hub.se/10.2307/2292967

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No. And judging from the paywall link, you hevnt read this 1943 publication either

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The preview with sources at the bottom is all I read.

[–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

On the basis of Terman's findings it may be estimated that fewer than 1/10 of 1 per cent of school children are to be found at or above Binet IQ 160

This is simply not true. In normal distribution with mean = 85 and SD= 15 the probability of having 163 IQ is so small, the calculator returns zero. Being 130 and above approaches 0.001 probability. 119 and above is ~0.01. For 160 it must be incredibly small number. For IQ of 200 even smaller. I'm not even sure if such IQ can be measured on IQ tests. Whatever scale Binet was using it is not the same as current one.

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Marilyn vos Savant has an IQ of 228. Yes, it is very rare to have 160 + IQ. No, the calculator does not return 0.

https://www.gigacalculator.com/calculators/iq-percentile-calculator.php

[–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Marilyn vos Savant has an IQ of 228.

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Alan S. Kaufman, a psychology professor and author of IQ tests, writes in IQ Testing 101 that "Miss Savant was given an old version of the Stanford-Binet (Terman & Merrill 1937), which did, indeed, use the antiquated formula of MA/CA × 100. But in the test manual's norms, the Binet does not permit IQs to rise above 170 at any age, child or adult. As the authors of the old Binet stated: 'Beyond fifteen the mental ages are entirely artificial and are to be thought of as simply numerical scores.' (Terman & Merrill 1937). ...the psychologist who came up with an IQ of 228 committed an extrapolation of a misconception, thereby violating almost every rule imaginable concerning the meaning of IQs."[13] Savant has commented on reports mentioning varying IQ scores she was said to have obtained.[14]

The second test reported by Guinness was Hoeflin's Mega Test, taken in the mid 1980s. The Mega Test yields IQ standard scores obtained by multiplying the subject's normalized z-score, or the rarity of the raw test score, by a constant standard deviation and adding the product to 100, with Savant's raw score reported by Hoeflin to be 46 out of a possible 48, with a 5.4 z-score, and a standard deviation of 16, arriving at a 186 IQ. The Mega Test has been criticized by professional psychologists as improperly designed and scored, "nothing short of number pulverization".[15]

Yes, it is very rare to have 160 + IQ. No, the calculator does not return 0.

This calculator is set to mean of 100. Blacks have mean of 85. While some individuals like that may exist, it's extemely rare

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

While some individuals like that may exist, it's extemely rare

I know, which is what makes these case studies interesting. Maybe not to you, but I'm curious about what differences they have from 160 + whites based on different evolutional pressures.

[–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jensen wrote about differences between low IQ blacks and similarly low IQ white if that would interest you. Bu I'm not aware of anything written about high IQ individuals. Likely because getting meaningful sample size on that is nearly impossible.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

If their IQ is so high then why aren't they on Mars already?

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Because your IQ is the one lacking to be asking such retarded questions.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's not a retarded question. Do you have any idea how high an average IQ of 160 is?

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

1 in 31,560

https://www.gigacalculator.com/calculators/iq-percentile-calculator.php

At a university you could meet one or several of these people especially because those in university have a higher IQ average to begin with. I have a friend who scored 160 FSIQ on WISC. I have a feeling you think it's much rarer than it is, and that they are supposedly superhumans who can reach Mars already which isn't the case.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

average IQ of 160

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What does that have to do with anything? These are case studies.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I though the study claimed these kids had an average IQ of 160?

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

n = 8

Mental Test Performance.

The IQ's, eight of which were derived by the Stanford-Binet and five by the Merrill-Terman revision (one undetermined), range from 162-200. The Test performance of these children reveals qualitative as well as quantitative excellence.

The really validity of this report would be a follow-up on these allegedly gifted children.

A child, or really anyone, allegedly being that intelligent is meaningless when they have nothing to show for it.

Just look at Rosner, vos Savant, and Langan.

I don't give a shit how smart someone allegedly is from a test (often done as a child, save for Rosner who has an extreme issue of insecurity), when they have not done anything noteworthy with it. You would expect significant breakthroughs from people that are supposedly as intelligent as these people.

It's like those pi-day idiots that remember thousands of digits in order. Ask them to try and memorize The Iliad, The Odyssey, or The Edda and see how well they do.

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are very few in the study for obvious reasons, it isn't a large sample size just case studies.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then it's completely irrelevant.

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Irrelevant in what sense? It's obviously an interesting read for many how high IQ blacks may function differently.