Against purely genetical nationalism

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

You're right and the dragon guy is retarded lmao. If you genetically modify a baby so his genes are literally white, despite being born to non-white parents, there's literally no argument that materialist/quantitative 'nationalists' can make against this baby's status as a white person. According to every kind of empirical test they will be proven to be white.

This is why materialism is cringe and obsession over race realism and all other post-enlightenment rationalist and empiricist stuff needs to just be left in the 19th century where it belongs.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

If you genetically modify a baby so his genes are literally white

"Some black parents might go to the clinic and change their babies' genes to white skin color, blond hair, blue eyes"
He will still be african. A few genes out of tens of thousands means nothing.

If they genetically altered him to be racially white, then yes he would be white and what's the problem?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

If they genetically altered him to be racially white, then yes he would be white and what's the problem?

That he would only quantitatively be white, he would have absolutely no connection to Europe whatsoever though.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Why wouldn't he have any connection to Europe? That's where his people is from and where his people has lived for tens of thousands of years.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What? The example is literally an African who is genetically modified to artificially be European. Therefore he has absolutely ZERO connection to Europe, he simply is a product of technology making his properties identical to ours despite having nothing to do with us.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How is he an african if he is european?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

because his parents and entire ancestry going back forever are african whilst his altered to be european dna is just the result of technology

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

His biological parents and his biological ancestry aren't africans.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

you're retarded man. the child is born of 2 african parents, but they've paid some labcoats to genetically modify the baby's genetics so it is identical to a white person.

of course his ancestry are still africans, he just isn't genetically related to them, he's essentially just a robot or clone of a european who has no connection to either his african parents or the european people he is a parody of

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If it's identical to a white person, then ...

[–]AFutureConcern 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your argument is actually more general. According to any utilitarian model, no matter what you desire, it will eventually be available in a synthesized form through the acceleration of techno-capital. Say you want your people to be happy; the future will provide brain implants and drugs without side-effects. Say you want to eliminate poverty; the future will eliminate scarcity of food and shelter. What the future will not do is preserve any tradition or meaning whatsoever. The bonds that tie family, nation and race will be dissolved, and the foundations of tradition will be evicted, by high-energy techno-capital.

The only thing that works against this is a dedication to tradition itself; to blood and soil - a direct repudiation of "progress" itself and an assertion of our bio-spirit.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. The struggle is Identity/Tradition vs (Techno)Capital. Always has been.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you genetically modify a baby so his genes are literally white, despite being born to non-white parents, there's literally no argument that materialist/quantitative 'nationalists' can make against this baby's status as a white person.

So what is your counter argument?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That materialism is gay, breaking things down to their properties and having that determine the essence of things is not how people of the right have ever operated.

Even though this baby 'scientifically' has the exact same genes as us it doesn't mean he is part of our organic Culture-Civilisation. He is just a technological abomination no different to those freaks who get a bunch of weird plastic surgery, piercings and tattoos over their entire bodies. There's nothing organic about this person and there's no relation or connection to Europe despite physical properties and appearances.

[–]marc_gee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Race realists say genes are the biggest connection to our people. Therefore, if it were 100% white genetics it would be white. All other factors of culture are downstream from racial genetics and can be altered without science.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly which is why this view is absurd. There's no real connection or continuity, our race is our kin. We have familial bonds, clans etc all for thousands of years. We are not simply the sum of quantifiable genes, we are an organic people that have connection to each other.

A lab-grown clone or a genetically modified human that shares 100% of our genetic traits but has no organic connection to us is an outsider. The individualist, liberal, empiricist view is just as bad as IQ nationalism. To be part of our race you must be born of our race, genetically modified strangers, clones and whatever else are not part of the organism.