What do you think would be the consequences for the White Race if the Soviet Union won the Cold War?

submitted by Salos10000 from self.debatealtright

Lets assume timeline:

The Soviets successfully take all of Berlin during the blockade.

Greek Communists successfully take control of the country

Egypt goes Communist.

The Chinese Communists successfully take Taiwan.

The North Koreans win the Korean war by blitzkrieg knocking out the South Koreans before the US can intervene.

The Vietnam and Cuban conflicts go the exact same.

The Soviets reach the moon first.

The Soviets successfully crush the revolution in Afghanistan and use the Iranian revolution to install a communist government.

The US coups in South America fail or backfire spectacularly.

The Soviets enjoy multiple economic surges similar to Joseph Stalin's achievements in the 30s.

The US suffers a second great depression.

By 1989, the US has gone back to being isolationist with a weakened economy and pretty much zero global influence leaving the Soviets as the victors.

What would the consequences for the White Race in this timeline?

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You forgot about Israel getting smashed by the USSR backing in the Middle East. Also, the weakening of Islam in the ME with the USSR working overtime to eradicate Islam.

Overall, you would get a 2nd-world globe which I would argue is far more ideal than the current state of affairs. Without gluttony, capitalism, and empowerment of the degenerates, the world would be much better for whitey.

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What about demographics?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

20th century communist countries kept close tabs on their demographics and altered them as they saw fit.

The biggest concern in your hypothetical scenario is that, due to lack of oversight at the highest levels, you could potentially get a Zionist hijacking of the 2nd world just like what happened in the first world. At that point, demographics would be at the mercy of God's chosen people.

[–]EinmuetigeErhebung 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

European countries would certainly still be ethnically preserved as birth rates would probably have remained fairly high and an inneficient communist economy would never have been able to support massive third world immigration. It wouldn't be a logical path for them to take, either. For a capitalist globalist system ethnic chaos makes perfect sense and aids the elite's goals, but in a communist society it would have been destabilizing.

Education would have decayed more slowly, people would still be relatively cultured and standards would be much higher. No twitter, no widespread english knowledge, no idolatry of american negro culture, no hypersexualization (sex was a taboo in the USSR).

The world would be ruled by a tiny cabal of heavily jewish-influenced communist criminals though, so the fact is that populations would be still be helpless before the will of this tiny and dangerous group. On the end if the day it would still be a godless, materialistic, dumbed-down mass society on the road to an environmental catastrophe. We would probably be living in depressing commie blocks next to a heavily polluting factory working a shit job.

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do Jews have any power in modern day China or Vietnam?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Somewhat as they were required to be linked to the global banking system after their respective wars/revolutions. You will notice war drums beat for any country that goes against the global banking system (Iran, Libya, Iraq, etc).

Seeing as we're going through the second cycle of quantitative easing with zero financial/economic consequence, it's safe to say that money literally doesn't matter and the world's "credit" system is rooted in exclusionary practice instead of actual accreditation.

[–]Salos10000[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You have to back this up with hard evidence.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

With regards to what? I'm not picking small specific events, but rather macroeconomic shifts. Ghaddafi was a well known pusher of the petrodollar and was a thorn in the side of global hegemony. Iranian banking is separated from the world economy and is it's own can of worms- there is a lot to say/read about that. Vietnam only joined WBG in the 50s and it's economic connections to international finance were only strengthened by the 5-year plan in the aftermath of the fall of Saigan.

In regards to quantitative easing, there was RAMPANT speculation that it would lead to inflation in 2008/2009. Every other economics paper was certain that we would pay the price for flooding the market with unbacked currency to float the economy but this never happened. There was very little consequence to printing ungodly amounts of money and now we are doing it all over again.

You should be able to read between the lines here and easily establish that the conspiracies are at least rooted in truth: global finance has a stranglehold on the comings and goings of the world and the "rulebook" that we think we play by is irrelevant. Fiscal responsibility, scarcity, etc all go out the window when the people pulling the strings want them to.

International finance as a whole is undoubtedly more about control than economics.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Much better.

The Soviets take over Europe and Americans are kicked out. With no Capitalist and American corruption in Europe, the great replacement doesn't happen. Socialists simply have no incentive to import labor and grow the economy. Most of the degeneracy never happens and Europe as a whole becomes more conservative. The white race survives and thrives in Europe.

Outside Europe however, the US tightens its grip on its colonies. The US, Canada and ANZACs enter into one federated Empire. The US becomes extremely aggressive militarily in South East Asia and Latin America. It blockades and bombs any country even veering towards communism and the CIA runs mass killing operations in Latin America and Southeast Asia.

China enters into a direct alliance with the US to counteract the Soviets. Chimerica is on an accelerated timeline and China becomes a superpower much faster. India falls into isolationism.

There is no global financial cartel as US dollar has no monopoly status due to a lack of petrodollars. Israel becomes untenable and Jews begin mass migration to US, causing it to be more leftist and chaotic.

The US undergoes the same degeneration as before but with increased fervor and drags the anglosphere with it.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Less disastrous than the current system. Marxism is a failure of a concept that always trends towards national socialism(not nazism) once it establishes itself. Problem is it is "national socialism" trapped under marxist dogma that it needs to liberate itself from. If marxism were to win and there was no antagonism with any capitalist powers I believe the marxist aspect would continue to be phased out completely over time.

[–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White Race survives but in the servitude of communists and used as nothing more than fuel for the degenerate communist death machine. I actually thought about this not too long ago, but in a slightly different context.