Even honest leftists are now coming to grips with the fact that feminism is a failure

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

Is it feminist, or:

  • the reduced fertility of both genders?
  • The corporate structure that forces both men and women into the work force to make ends meet?

In the 50's/60's there's was a very real concern about what would people do in the future because they wouldn't have to work from there advancements in automation.

Instead the wealthly kept all of the profits, and the overwhelming majority of household is mired in debt.
Most do not have enough saved for a $500 emergency.

Corporate America intentionally created "the nuclear family" by creating conditions when it was necessary to move to advance a career.
This was done to isolate young families, and reduce familiar support networks.

HOAs were created to control what people do with their land, so families couldn't grow food in their own gardens.

Today vegetables are similarly priced with meat. It's the opposite of capitalism, and it's insane. Feeding your family is unaffordable for many household.

Trans national corporations have socially engineered the west every bit as much as "the socialists" (they were never communist) did in the east. They intentionally inflicted an unbelievable degree of suffering upon the global public.

We're currently in the opening stages of a Depopulation agenda. No one is prepared for what is coming.

The propaganda was top dollar, so most of us never noticed.

Do you see the writing on the wall?
Do you believe the Coronavirus is an existential threat to all humanity?
Did you notice the controlled demolition of the economy?

At this point any debate about the failures of feminism is the least of our worries.
This divisiveness advanced the Depopulation agenda.
That's the globalists endgame.

No one asked to be born, or choose their gender. So what is the end game of this attack post?

Do everyone a favor, get over your fear.
Go talk to the girl down there hall, and be nice to her. If she's rude, then it's possible she's the female equivalent of yourself, so give her a couple of chances.

Her life isn't easy either.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Read my posts, i've said all these things. Feminism is just another tool for the Jewish plutocrats.

And as for women having it tough, never in history have women had it so good. They are a privileged class by law. They get quotas, preferential hiring and admissions. There are thousands of NGOs, foundations and charities, excluisively catered to their needs. How many charities cater exclusively to men who make up 65% of the very poor?

And then the court system...if testosterone hadn't been lowered by plastic pollution and endocrine disruptors in food, the courts would've been burnt down ages ago. 90% of child custody is given to women despite them being the majority of abusers. Women are given lighter sentences and are entitled to alimony. A woman can literally cheat on you or just divorce because she's bored, and then take your house, your kids and half your paycheck every month while she's riding some new cock. You have no say in how she uses your alimonty and child support checks, none. And she can restrict you from visiting your children any time by just making up some bogus accusation

If you are a divorced man, you are essentially an indentured servant to your ex.

And women have the gall to say they have it bad?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i've said all these things

You and I are not saying the same thing

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

I usually don't like your posts but this is an interesting perspective and I agree with a lot of it. De-population is openly the goal and I don't think it's all bad especially in the third world where families have more children than the carrying capacity of their environment.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

De-population is openly the goal and I don't think it's all bad especially in the third world where families have more children than the carrying capacity of their environment.

I haven't seen the evidence that demonstrates that the "carrying capacity" of the environment has been exceeded by 3rd world families.

The Malthusian theory has been debunked thoroughly, but the eugenicists continue to push it..

It would be interesting to hear your feedback to one particular source who has gathered significant sources of evidence to debunk the idea of "overpopulation".

Meet Paul Ehrlich, Pseudoscience Charlatan

The evidence speaks for itself.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How has it been debukned? Its simply been postponed by advances in science. But there is a physical limit to how much industrial production and population the earth can handle

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't take my word for it. Watch the video.

Source material is provided on the page below the video.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Stop with this nonsense. Infinite growth on a finite planet is lunacy.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Paul Ehrlich predicted in the 70's that global populations would exceed planetary capacity in the 80's or 90's predicting:

  • Great Britton would cease to exist by the year 2000
  • global famine
  • total war
  • mass starvation
  • Petroleum supplies with be exhausted
  • etc.

He filled a book with this crap.

Hopefully, I don't need you do a recap of recent history to remind you that he was completely wrong about every major aspect of his prediction.

For whatever reason, these morons predictions fail miserably, yet they continue to push their demonstrably false agenda.

There probably is a finite number that the planet can support.
However, I suspect that human innovation would continue to allow people and the environment to thrive for many billions more people.

Increases in innovation would probably advance similar to moore's law in terms of increases in efficiency, energy output, and resource utilization.

Even so, the current trajectory of the global population is expected to cap around 11 billion.
Most of the growth is expected to occur in Africa.
Africa is not overpopulated.

What I've stated is demonstrably true. Overpopulation is not a crisis.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Your entire premise is based on a straw man.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Your entire premise is based on a straw man.

You could use a logical fallacy refresher course.

Edit: You will find the explanation in my comments below.

The reality is the overpopulation offers no concrete evidence. Instead, it's a "it seems obvious to me that everything is worse" argument.

My argument (provided below) undermines the idea that resources are running out due to actually scarcity (the scarcity is manufactured).

The evidence provided in the linked video demonstrates reality that finite resources go down in price and increase in availability over time.

This reality is counterintuitive.

The evidence provided explicitly refutes the overpopulation argument.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The evidence provided in the linked video demonstrates reality that finite resources go down in price and increase in availability over time.

They're still finite.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree. Yet they still increase in availability.

Or alternatives are identified and leveraged.

Either way, people find a way to make things better.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Except things aren't getting better. The biosphere is collapsing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The Malthusian theory has been debunked thoroughly

How can you even say this?

People consume resources, resources are limited. Both of those pre-suppositions are airtight and I really can't take anyone seriously who argues otherwise. Plus, we should always strive to consume less resources anyways so....... yeah you completely lost me.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That is a good question, and it's easy to oversimplify the situation.

There was a panic in the 1880's or so, when the whales were almost hunted to extinction because whale oil was needed for lamps, etc.

It seems laughable today, because alternatives are always identified and substituted.

Summary: In the med/long term (5-10 years) commodity prices of every non-regulated resource continue to go down over time (adjusted for inflation).

Innovation always outpaces demand.

People and human ingenuity are the greatest resources on the planet.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's not scientific and whale oil limitations are a bad example. Try oxygen instead, can human innovation conquer that? Will an entrepreneur make the switch to nitrogen and market it?

This is a huge fallacy that a lot of "free market" libertarians fall under and it's this idea that everything exists in a vacuum and that economics has no constraints. The truth is that not every market force has competition and not every resource has viable alternatives. So both of these axioms:

Innovation always outpaces demand.

People and human ingenuity are the greatest resources on the planet.

are false. We are mortal and we are limited.

If you want actual proof that the third world is at carrying capacity then I recomend you visit Africa and bear witness to the ecological collapse that many regions are undergoing particularly around lakes and water systems. And while more efficient tech could improve this situation, the reality is that the regions are simply overburdened with consumers.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not scientific and whale oil limitations are a bad example.

Here's an omnipresent solution.

Limitless energy is easily available and environmentally safe with local implementation small scale thorium reactors (and 1990's tech). Thorium is as common a material as nickel. Free quasi-eternal energy. Solved.

When energy is free, then there are very few limitations to what can be done.

The root-cause of our "scarcity" condition is the psychopaths/sociopaths who have manipulated and enslaved the public, with their PR propaganda operations. From their perspective, If there are no "have-nots", then they wouldn't be as special.
They're still not special, they are corrupted and delusional.

Propaganda is intended to set the limits of debate, and exclude options that would serve to further liberate us all.

We need to recognize the problems, and then we can resolve them. The problems are not insurmountable.

First we need legitimate information to base decisions off of. The first video is a good start for the population fraud that is being used to brainwash people into a hysterical fear of future possibilities. The source material is provided below on the same page.

Here's another high-quality recommendation. It's equally relevant.
Interview 1563 – Keith Knight and James Corbett Dissect Voluntary Servitude
From the same source.

the reality is that the regions are simply overburdened with consumers.

You think Africa is overburdened with consumerism? It's not even remotely industrialized. It's like the US in the 30's.

Year-round sunlight, combined with green house production. Regions in Africa could easily increase production by 100x. Easily.

We would first need to invest in the region, instead of exploit it. Add in some Thorium reactors, and it could be a modern paradise in ~20 years.

Africa has been exploited for centuries, and deserves a win.

Every person on every other continent has somewhere around ~2-4% neanderthal DNA.
Africans are objectively the most human among us.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you believe in climate change?

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not OP, but yes, I do.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The actual evidence suggests they planet is not warming.

Why Who do you ask?

[–]bald-janitor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nah