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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That is a good question, and it's easy to oversimplify the situation.

There was a panic in the 1880's or so, when the whales were almost hunted to extinction because whale oil was needed for lamps, etc.

It seems laughable today, because alternatives are always identified and substituted.

Summary: In the med/long term (5-10 years) commodity prices of every non-regulated resource continue to go down over time (adjusted for inflation).

Innovation always outpaces demand.

People and human ingenuity are the greatest resources on the planet.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's not scientific and whale oil limitations are a bad example. Try oxygen instead, can human innovation conquer that? Will an entrepreneur make the switch to nitrogen and market it?

This is a huge fallacy that a lot of "free market" libertarians fall under and it's this idea that everything exists in a vacuum and that economics has no constraints. The truth is that not every market force has competition and not every resource has viable alternatives. So both of these axioms:

Innovation always outpaces demand.

People and human ingenuity are the greatest resources on the planet.

are false. We are mortal and we are limited.

If you want actual proof that the third world is at carrying capacity then I recomend you visit Africa and bear witness to the ecological collapse that many regions are undergoing particularly around lakes and water systems. And while more efficient tech could improve this situation, the reality is that the regions are simply overburdened with consumers.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not scientific and whale oil limitations are a bad example.

Here's an omnipresent solution.

Limitless energy is easily available and environmentally safe with local implementation small scale thorium reactors (and 1990's tech). Thorium is as common a material as nickel. Free quasi-eternal energy. Solved.

When energy is free, then there are very few limitations to what can be done.

The root-cause of our "scarcity" condition is the psychopaths/sociopaths who have manipulated and enslaved the public, with their PR propaganda operations. From their perspective, If there are no "have-nots", then they wouldn't be as special.
They're still not special, they are corrupted and delusional.

Propaganda is intended to set the limits of debate, and exclude options that would serve to further liberate us all.

We need to recognize the problems, and then we can resolve them. The problems are not insurmountable.

First we need legitimate information to base decisions off of. The first video is a good start for the population fraud that is being used to brainwash people into a hysterical fear of future possibilities. The source material is provided below on the same page.

Here's another high-quality recommendation. It's equally relevant.
Interview 1563 – Keith Knight and James Corbett Dissect Voluntary Servitude
From the same source.

the reality is that the regions are simply overburdened with consumers.

You think Africa is overburdened with consumerism? It's not even remotely industrialized. It's like the US in the 30's.

Year-round sunlight, combined with green house production. Regions in Africa could easily increase production by 100x. Easily.

We would first need to invest in the region, instead of exploit it. Add in some Thorium reactors, and it could be a modern paradise in ~20 years.

Africa has been exploited for centuries, and deserves a win.

Every person on every other continent has somewhere around ~2-4% neanderthal DNA.
Africans are objectively the most human among us.