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[–]TheMythof_Feminism 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (12 children)

HEY HARD-CUCKS, they didn't like you, they never liked you.

I was permabanned from r/debatealtright twice simply for being annoying. That was totally fine, I know that I'm annoying as fuck on top of NOT being neither white nor a member of the alt-right, the userbase of the subreddit largely supported me getting permabanned which is fine. But when the subreddit itself is banned for basically the same reason, suddenly it's outrageous and fucked up...... I was never a member of the alt-right but I used to broadly support your cause up until I realized you are leftists. You have no consistency, you will talk a big game but cuck out when it matters and your self-awareness is shit. You want the same things as other leftists but whine when they get their way. Pathetic.

The wildly misnamed 'alt-right' is a disappointment and an embarrassment. No, not because 'muh racism' but because you are too stupid to be effective on your own and you are too cowardly to be used for a greater cause. 0/10, gg.

[–]LookAtThatNose 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

We are socially far right. Economically centrist/center-left usually. That does not qualify as 'leftist'.

At least be honest mate. Just because we are not lolbertarians like you, does not mean we are 'leftist'. We just don't have retarded economic policies and leftist (yes, leftist) social policies like you.

If anyone's a leftist, it's you being a lolbert.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We are socially far right.

/facepalm

That means you're a leftist, dipshit. There is no 'socially', there is only government. Your political alignment is derived from what you believe the proper role of government is. You support absolute government overreach to achieve exactly the same ends as other leftists and you support a totalitarian system of government, I.e. socialism. Tell me in what way you are different from the other leftists [SPOILER: There are no differences]. Thanks for proving my point.

At least be honest mate.

I am honest, always. The problem is you're stupid and have no idea what you're talking about, couple that with zero self-awareness and that leaves you identical to the other leftists. I am more so annoyed that I ever supported any of you or your cause, I should have realized immediately what you are.

[–]LookAtThatNose 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We are socially far right.

That means you're a leftist, dipshit

You're no better than a cuckservative/qtard spewing drivel like this. We are racial collectivists. We have far right social, and center/center left economic views. We are in no meaning of the word 'leftists'.

Your political alignment is derived from what you believe the proper role of government is

Are you Adam Kokesh? This is a seriously delusional take. Your political alignment is how you advocate using the government once you take power. You live in a fantasy land where you can dissolve the government or shorten it to a point where nobody is in control and everyone will just leave power be. You really don't understand people, outside of Mexico I think, if you have truly deluded yourself to use THIS as your gauge of 'left v right'. Anarchists want to abolish the government, too. Are they 'right wing' like you?

You support absolute government overreach to achieve exactly the same ends as other leftists and you support a totalitarian system of government

Exactly the same ends as leftists, huh? What would those ends be? If we're talking the common understanding of leftists (commies/socialists), how are we looking to achieve the 'same ends'? Also, authoritarian, not totalitarian. You clearly don't understand the difference. All you are doing is repeating what you see other lolberts say. You really don't understand fascism outside of comic book fascism. I challenge you to actually research fascism before you put this bile on my screen. Holy hell, Myth. I thought you had more sense than this. You've really gone off the deep end.

Tell me in what way you are different from the other leftists

Tell me in what way we are the same as commies/radlibs? We advocate for a blending of the classes rather than class warfare. We believe in the right to private property. We are anti materialist. Private businesses can exist as long as their power is regulated. Strong social programs like incentives for having children and long maternal and paternal leave (omg so leftist!). Promotion of family values, traditional gender roles and a traditional European morality via media and education. Merit based career training in schools so kids can get high paying jobs out of high school and be able to afford a house and support a family young.

You have a warped understanding of the world, like all lolberts/minarchists/ancaps. Through a fascist state, ironically enough, is the only way you would ever be able to eventually get your lolbertarian utopia. Social trust needs to be at an extreme level, and the only way of ensuring that is through radical policy over generations. Good luck getting people to buy into your delusional meme ideology.

I am more so annoyed that I ever supported any of you or your cause, I should have realized immediately what you are.

Cool. You're not even white. I literally don't care what you think. I used to respect some of your posts; especially when you reported border happenings in Mexico. You need to reevaluate your worldview. Learn about the third position. Read. If you prefer, watch. Cultured Thug. Keith Woods. You accuse others of being stupid when you can't even honestly critique the worldview you're attacking without lying.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is why I enjoyed spending time on r/debatealtright , you are completely wrong about every single point you tried to make but you presented actual arguments in an attempt to make your case. Though you are wrong, I respect the fact that you made your case, I wasn't going to respond again but I will do so.

We have far right social .....

Mmmhmm, that's why you demand for welfare/feminism/leftism for things like attempting to boost fertility rate..... what type of insanity is required to claim that that's on the right? and more to the point, that doesn't work and will never work. The only way to boost fertility rate and strengthen families is by taking women's rights away which you hard-cucks are staunchly opposed to and in fact support the opposite. Oh but you want to take men's rights away further because...... well, you're cucks. This is easily the worst part of the alt-right, you have no consistency because you're actually leftists trying to pretend otherwise.

Strong social programs like incentives for having children and long maternal and paternal leave (omg so leftist!).

Those things are in fact, leftist, especially the second bit. Using government force to subjugate businesses by stripping them of meritorious earnings, siphoning it away to fuel parasitism is exactly the opposite of what the right stands for. You do NOT punish someone for working hard and then reward someone for not working. That's retarded as fuck and incentivizes the creation a massive welfare state that will inevitably collapse.

Promotion of family values, traditional gender roles and a traditional European morality via media and education.

Bullshit.

You cannot support the above quoted while calling for welfare and supporting feminism.

Tell me in what way we are the same as leftists

I already told you but okay I will tell you again. You support absolute government overreach, you want the same things as the other leftists (Ex : Rampant censorship, government fueled propaganda, welfare, feminism, etc.) and advocate a totalitarian system of governance that subjugates the nation's citizenry to the extreme, I.e. socialism.

It is worth repeating that socialism is complete shit for whites. I believe whites are the most meritorious race, they don't work the hardest but they sure work the smartest. In terms of productivity and innovation they are unmatched. A totalitarian system of governance cuts everyone's legs off, destroying productivity and innovation and therefore making everyone worse but especially the top dogs. This means whites will always take the biggest hit. Do you understand? no of course not.

Through a fascist state

Fascist socialism is just socialism which is LEFTIST. It is very clear in 'The Fascist Manifesto' (1919) and 'The Doctrine of Fascism' (1932) that it is no different than any other form of socialism in practical terms with the text explicitly calling fascist socialism a 'revolutionary movement' and a system of governance intended to bring about social justice . It's leftism. Both Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile were staunch socialists for their entire lives, with only a rejection of marxist socialism specifically.

FUN FACT: I learned this precisely by talking to people that claimed to support 'fascism' but clearly knew fuck all about it, prompting me to fact check the things they said.

You have a warped understanding of the world, like all lolberts/minarchists/ancaps.

That is not correct. You are projecting. I'll give you a practical example; The only way to boost fertility rate in a meaningful way is to take women's rights away. This is irrefutable..... what does the alt-right think about this? they shy away from it and instead demand more welfare for women (parasitism/feminism/leftism) despite it being counter-productive (Makes the problem worse). It is you that has the warped understanding of the world.

Given that the alt-right wants to institute a totalitarian system of governance, I was shocked when they actively argued against taking women's rights away. That's what makes every member of the alt-right a hard-cuck.

Learn about the third position.

Actually I have learned a lot about it and I am thankful for the alt-right at large for helping me with that. Though argumentation like this I know enough to recognize that what you are saying is nonsense.

This was actually quite fun, you put up a much better 'fight' than the marxist socialists with their pure unadulterated retardation. I'm out, best of luck to you all.

[–]LookAtThatNose 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Again, you just proved how much of a meme your ideology is. It doesn't appeal to normal people. While I agree that women should have less say in politics and rights, you take it to a level which is anti-social and will never appeal to the average man. While I admire some aspects of Islam, it is not a white creation. We are not all the same. In Mexico, controlling women to that point might be more effective than it would be in European society. You're coming from a point of view of MEXICAN society, not European society.

I agree, women are fucked up, and feminism through mostly (((media))) subversion is the root cause of that, but what you're seeing now is women at their absolute worst. I understand you're black pilled on them, but they are incredibly impressionable. Think of them as water in a glass. They will mould to the glass, whatever shape it is. In a fascist state, you wouldn't need to treat them as akin to slaves because they would be eager to impress the men of the nation, and thus conform to societal expectations of them. They will do whatever is 'cool', and if having kids and being meek housewives is what's 'cool' and promoted, they will do that. The only reason they're mostly sluts now is because it's 'cool' to be a slut.

that's why you demand for welfare

There's nothing wrong with helping the downtrodden of society. We would obviously put caveats on that welfare so it's not a blatant handout to leeches, but sometimes people need assistance. They're not all big brained and capable.

feminism

When have I presented anything but staunch opposition to feminism?

leftism

Again, just a buzzword without understanding what you're actually saying.

attempting to boost fertility rate

Yes. And you do that by making women want to become mothers and raise families. Financial incentives so they can raise more children would help with that.

The only way to boost fertility rate and strengthen families is by taking women's rights away which you hard-cucks are staunchly opposed to and in fact support the opposite

I think some rights need to be taken away, absolutely, as I want white men of good character running our nations, but again, you take it to an anti-social extreme. We're not Muslim. We will never be Muslim. We have also evolved as a race. Look to National Socialist Germany as an example of the role of women in society. They need to be empowered in the right way, i.e having children, taking care of themselves, being good wives to their husbands etc.

Oh but you want to take men's rights away further because...... well, you're cucks

Who's rights do you think we are taking away? The cucks. The commies. The liberals. The traitors. Decent white men of good character that align with us won't have need for the things we are 'taking away'/banning. In fact, they would be staunchly opposed to them.

Using government force to subjugate businesses by stripping them of meritorious earnings, siphoning it away to fuel parasitism is exactly the opposite of what the right stands for

Government should absolutely be used to control businesses. We will have a fundamental disagreement here, but virtually unregulated capitalism is how liberalism really gained momentum. You envision some based, stateless place with corporations subjugating women etc, but in reality, the exact opposite would happen dude, lol. You would have no control over what would happen, because you're too afraid to tell businesses what to do because that's gasp leftist! Your mind is so stuck in this right/left box. You are afraid of actual power, yet think you'll have some form of it in your envisioned society. Lol, right.

That's retarded as fuck and incentivizes the creation a massive welfare state that will inevitably collapse.

You need a balance. To go to either extreme economically is retarded. Both state socialism and unregulated free market capitalism collapse. Balance breeds balance. Hitler figured this out and turned their economy completely around from the absolute disaster that was the Weimar Republic, which you would actually prefer in your warped sense of what works.

You cannot support the above quoted while calling for welfare and supporting feminism

Again, dishonest misrepresentation of my views.

Rampant censorship

Yes, I want to censor my enemies. I want to censor commies and liberals. Imagine not wanting to.

government fueled propaganda

Propaganda doesn't automatically = bad, bro. It's like you got your opinion of fascism off of Spielberg films. Just because commies use propaganda does not mean we can't either. It is effective, and you can use it for positive means.

advocate a totalitarian system of governance

Authoritarian.

subjugates the nation's citizenry to the extreme

You're calling for women to be akin to slaves. I'm not subjugating the citizenry nearly as extreme as you are, bro. You're btfoing yourself here.

socialism is complete shit for whites

And National Socialism, i.e a balance is the best for whites, as we could see during National Socialist Germany's reign. Look at all of what they achieved in such a short time frame. All from arguably the worst state the nation has been in, in history. From zero to literal heroes that the world wished they could replicate. Free market capitalism (which breeds liberalism) is what turns whites into docile, do nothing consumers.

destroying productivity and innovation and therefore making everyone worse but especially the top dogs

LOL bro. How about you have a read of how efficient Germany was in terms of production. Look at what they were able to produce in again, such a short time frame. Quality of life got MUCH better even despite Germany having to turn more factories into military factories. Go look at some footage of Germany in the 30's. While the rest of the world was in overall recession, Germany was thriving.

Fascist socialism is just socialism which is LEFTIST

Again, you're showing your boomer side. You are akin to a qtard with this argumentation, and I will not treat it in good faith. I already have, but you are completely missing the point so I'll move on.

no different than any other form of socialism in practical terms with the text explicitly calling fascist socialism a 'revolutionary movement' and a system of governance intended to bring about social justice

Where do the Doctrine of Fascism or Fascist manifesto advocate for abolishment of private property, class warfare, or absolute state socialism? You're being grug, here, unpredictably because some fascist philosophers were ex Marxists that saw that Marxism is retarded and wanted something different. They literally lived the ideology and rejected its core tenets. How can you possibly say, being a higher IQ individual that I know you are, that fascism is 'no different than any form of socialism'? Like, this is just so stupid I may start to question your intelligence, here.

I learned this precisely by talking to people that claimed to support 'fascism' but clearly knew fuck all about it

I've been studying fascism for 15+ years. You yourself know fuck all about it other than what you read on Wikipedia or other leftist mainstream sources. Again, I encourage you to watch a Cultured Thug video. He breaks down the world view quite well. In fact, I'll help you.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/uar8mxxfDCun/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/uar8mxxfDCun/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/1icfEw5vQxkw/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/4TMNNKsjHMgm/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/5uPjIxaaaGsw/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/jessOBKeBk2A/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/8ZNFr6idU1Wx/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/NV2mFnDxYkFh/

And here, just for you: https://www.bitchute.com/video/oT0dxqIyoAnh/

The only way to boost fertility rate in a meaningful way is to take women's rights away. This is irrefutable..... what does the alt-right think about this?

I agree that some women's rights should be taken away as they are destructive to them. But again, I've addressed this earlier.

Given that the alt-right wants to institute a totalitarian system of governance

Wrong.

I was shocked when they actively argued against taking women's rights away

Most people in the Alt Right think women should have less rights. Be akin to slaves? No. That's retarded and for bush people.

Actually I have learned a lot about it and I am thankful for the alt-right at large for helping me with that

Not enough.

This was actually quite fun, you put up a much better 'fight' than the marxist socialists with their pure unadulterated retardation

Thanks. It was. Stick around and debate/learn more. I think you can change for the better and grow up in your worldview. I encourage you to stick around, Myth. You're not stupid, just misguided.

[–]yellow_algebra_31 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I remember you. Why were you banned? I had thought you went away on your own, you were annoying. I didn't realize you were banned. Why were you continually hanging around with a movement that's for a different group? It's a little weird and inappropriate, y'know? Idk. It's like you couldn't just let people organize appropriately among themselves.

Why were you banned?

And yes, the alt-right is just identity politics pandering for white people in the same existing style. I feel... ashamed for turning against many of my principles to get too into it. Not that I don't support it, but, well. Maybe this is what it looks like when people purity spiral instead of building coalitions.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I remember you. Why were you banned?

For being annoying, I just told you..... or specifically, for getting on WaltzRoommate's (Top mod?) nerves. I was not surprised to be banned at either time.

you were annoying.

Yep, though I would change that 'were' to 'are'. I am annoying but also I am correct.

Why were you continually hanging around with a movement that's for a different group?

Because being correct is unrelated to nonsense like 'groups'. Facts, logic & reason cut through all and I incorrectly believed that groups like 'the alt-right' were finally rising up to act against the grand-scale subjugation and brutality that whites were and still are suffering. Turns out I was the only person that cared about that.

I should have realized that when 'the alt-right' was bizarrely uninterested in ways to raise the white fertility rate around the world and still uninterested when I provided evidence of actual government coordinated efforts to flood the U.S. with foreigners by Mexico's president. The so-called 'alt-right' is full of shit, it's just a bunch of cowardly leftist cucks.

yes, the alt-right is just identity politics pandering for white people

No it is not.

It's just leftism which is shit for whites and the direct cause of many of their problems. The 'alt-right' is worse than a dead end, worse than shills, worse than controlled opposition. I've said what I wanted to say, that is all, gg.

[–]yellow_algebra_31 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What did you do to get on WR's nerves?

bizarrely uninterested in ways to raise the white fertility rate around the world and still uninterested when I provided evidence of actual government coordinated efforts to flood the U.S. with foreigners by Mexico's president.

That's troubling. I didn't see those posts of yours.

What I mean about groups ... I guess it is a leftist idea, but people can figure things out for themselves, y'know? There's this idea that it's better if people are lead by their own. And that foreign leadership inevitably kinda perverts things because inevitably the outsider can never really quite understand the perspective and the issues at hand, and will never have quite the same interests. Plus it seems better for people to have the experience and develop the skill to rescue themselves, rather than having that experience and that role go to an outsider.

You posted a LOT, and I mean a LOT, and no, you weren't always right about everything nor did you always have the right idea about everything. It was strange, because it was like this Mexican guy was just participating and speaking for the alt-right a lot of the time. It seemed like you were trying to find a home of sorts there, a belonging in the movement, which didn't seem appropriate.

And if you knew you were annoying or bothering people, why didn't you just alter your participation so you weren't being annoying?

Is there such a thing as identity-politics-pandering that's not leftism? I guess that's what I meant. alt-right seems a lot like oppressor-class liberation narrative for whites, except instead of blacks ooppressing whites or men oppressing women it's jews oppressing whites. And yeah other people notice it, a black American youtuber I watched said she didn't understand all this "Jews" stuff whites were talking about all of a sudden because she had thought whites were high IQ and she'd been taught that was just a silly thing that African American people did because they weren't smart enough to figure out that was a bad way to go about things. Is that what you mean by leftism?

I incorrectly believed that groups like 'the alt-right' were finally rising up to act against the grand-scale subjugation and brutality that whites were and still are suffering. Turns out I was the only person that cared about that.

There are others who believe the "alt-right" is controlled opposition or an ineffective movement or not really aimed at white success or wellbeing. Have you seen the book "The Rats of Nationalism"?

I do think the alt-right accomplishes some things, but like a lot of online "political" groups I think it could be far more organized and effective. Though again I'm not sure how much is occurring offline.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

speaking for the alt-right

Oh for fucks sake....

I never once did what you are saying and in fact, I would very frequently say almost verbatim "I am not a member of the alt-right, I am not white and I do not represent the alt-right in any way" at the beginning of comments that I made. My subreddit flair typically mentioned that I was not from the U.S. or something similar and I made no secret about not being politically aligned with the subreddit (Libertarian). I went way out of my way to always clarify that I was not doing exactly what you accuse me of.

What a joke, you leftists are all the same and always try to pull the same bullshit, gg.

[–]yellow_algebra_31 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sorry, been away for a few days.

Yes, I agree you were clear that you were not a member of the alt-right. However you would sometimes answer questions directed at the alt-right. Like "well I'm not part of the alt-right really but this is their position on your question". That's what I meant.

I agree there are some problems with the alt-right, and to the extent you've genuinely helped whites, I appreciate it. If the problems are as bad as you suggest I pro-white activism will find a better way.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ok boomer

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You were the one that took pictures of the construction of Trump's "wall" right? I enjoyed your posts/comments and thought they contributed a lot.