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[–]useless_aether 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the video after this one says how the trump family got rich running a brothel in canada. would make sense. did they use blackmail too?

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a good question. It's would be surprising if they overlooked that opportunity.

What happens in Trump's brothels, doesn't stay in Trump's brothels...

[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (15 children)

Israel is the only democracy in the middle east. The US has a petro dollar problem. To maintain balance they need to support Israel unless you think genocide is a good idea.

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Thanks for the talking points reminder.

Israel is the only democracy in the middle east.

The indigenous population can't vote. It's a fake democracy.

[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The ones that can't vote should just be in the oven. Problem solved.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You want people burnt in ovens huh? That's a big decision.

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

How else can we make lampshades?

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You don't make lampshades by burning people. First you have to skin them. Alive if possible - just for fun.

[–]gretathroatborg2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"people"

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's Isreali democracy, huh? You must be proud.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Iran and Syria are democracies.

[–]sproketboy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Well we know Mossad and the CIA control Wikipedia, so there's that...

Further "democracy" is a loaded bullshit word anyway. Find me a nation where worker cooperatives are more prevalent than capitalist businesses and corporations controlled by the few "boss" men.

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

worker cooperatives

Why would you find those more prevalent? They don't work as well.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm just saying "Democracy" is a loaded word.

You spend far more time at work than most places, yet most people don't have democratic work places. They're always dominated and exploited by the boss and or few executives. And those who rule you organize to infiltrate and subvert fair alternatives and solutions - as the FBI and CIA have done through history.

Further, you say, "They don't work as well." By who's measure? "Work" for who? What are the goals of this "work"?

For the group that collectively maintains job security, worthy investments, heart in the game, a say in their workplace, safety, environmental and community responsibility, no fears of being shipped overseas, etc. - it works for them and their families and their communities.

If you mean to pay them the absolute minimal, exploit all the resources you can, and externalize all expenses from polluting the environment to depending on government subsidies and foodstamps to feed your slave wage staff - then I guess it's not "working" the best for you boss.

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

By who's measure?

If they worked better than normal hierarchical companies then they would out compete them - but no-one's stopping you from creating your own co-op.

On the other hand the Marxists would prevent normal hierarchical companies from existing. When you get into totalitarian territory you lost the argument.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If [worker coops] worked better than normal hierarchical companies then they would out compete them

Again, "worked" meaning what and for whom? "Normal" meaning what?

For millennia the powers that be have exploited humanity and reinvested it into their own systems. People with money keep it with people with money. Investors in Amazon.com lost money for over a decade - yet now that all the mom & pop shops have closed, Amazon is finally on top as a monopoly.

How can anyone compete with that, work coop or not? You assume the "normal" field is fair.

"Worked" means profits for the few rich executives or the boss? Or "worked" for the employees, families, communities, and environment?

I know no one is stopping me (safe, for now, here in Canada). However, I won't be getting all the perks, subsidies, etc that a "normal" business tycoon would. Insurance, loans, etc ? Forget it. Protection from "random thugs" and unfair competitor practices? Forget it. Access to armies of lawyers? Forget it.

The field is utterly rigged.

On the other hand the Marxists would prevent normal hierarchical companies from existing. When you get into totalitarian territory you lost the argument.

That's not really true. There are 3 kinds of Marxism. Worker coops is one (the only one I fully support). Communists are just like capitalists with some variations - all for big totalitarian governments.

"Normal" for who? You mean communist-capitalist China? You mean SJW America? There is no "normal" and never was. All governments are totalitarian to some degree. There is no such thing as a free market - anywhere. Also, FYI, all capitalist and commie governments are hierarchical - as is the entire corporatocracy - regardless of whether the state or the oligarch control the means of production. That's how "they" and (((they))) fixed it.

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"worked" meaning what and for whom?

Meaning a normal hierarchically organized business will out compete your co-op. Which means it "works" for everyone since it's not a zero sum game. When you buy your soy late - the seller wants your 3 bucks and you want the soy late - it's a win-win.

For millennia the powers that be have exploited humanity and reinvested it into their own systems.

Maybe. But it seems you want to hand more power to them in guise of more government.

Investors in Amazon.com lost money for over a decade - yet now that all the mom & pop shops have closed, Amazon is finally on top as a monopoly.

Even if that were the case (it's arguable) - the only reason they can do that is that they can influence bureaucrats to prevent competition. Competition is there by default.

You assume the "normal" field is fair.

If someone makes a more competitive business than Amazon they'll beat amazon. We've seen the same thing forever. 10 years ago leftist were winning about Walmart. Someone can always build a better mousetrap. Happens all the time.

"Worked" means profits for the few rich executives or the boss?

Who took the risk in the first place. Should the floor sweeper be paid the same as the CEO?

Or "worked" for the employees, families, communities, and environment?

It does work for employees & families. It can work for the communities and environment as well.

I won't be getting all the perks, subsidies, e......

Why not? Start a business - it can be a co-op. You'll get the same "magical" perks. You don't know anything about economics do you? I would recommend Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell.

There are 3 kinds of Marxism.

Whatever. It's all cancer.

All governments are totalitarian to some degree.

So why do you want them to control the means of production? Why would you ever want them to have more power?

[–]HeyImSancho 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The EO definitely shows bias; especially the fact Dershowitz was present. It appeared like he was showing the world while he's strongly implicated in pedo-island, and an Epstein confidant, that he's above the law, and has the protection of the US govt.

My thoughts on everything we're seeing is as follows. You've got to have a degree of 'understanding', solid footing, know your 'bearing', or insert your favorite saying (here) to wade your way through the world.

Like many presidents before Trump, most are voted in as the lessor of 2 evils. With Trump, they made it either Him, or Killary, and he definitely has a down to earth personality in many ways. I thought when I first heard him talk at a debate(the fact they let him talk, is telling in it's own right) that he was the selection, and I thought then we'd be seeing some massive psychological 'wtfs' in the not too distant future, and we are. I think it's on purpose, and those folks who set their 'bearings' on him, as their rock, a good amount of the American people, are being demoralized every time he does something like this. It seems like a permanent destruction of the American identity by way of psychological means.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

i think trump was groomed to be a president one day, constantly maintaining his public profile, and keeping him in our collective consciousness. and i think there was a shitton of reverse psychology in how the msm promoted clinton and attacked trump. tptsb, they know their sheeple too well. the globalists are dismantling america to make way for the nwo, and trump is simply doing his part. what else can he do?

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

what else can he do?

I can think of a few things, but that would be beyond ignorant as well. I would think the position he holds also comes with a 'if you do not cooperate clause'...... which I'm sure he was, and is aware of.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

oh, he is aware of ... jfk..

[–]Froglich 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would think the position he holds also comes with a 'if you do not cooperate clause'...... which I'm sure he was, and is aware of.

Why create this hypothetical excuse? Would you extend this logic to HRC?

Neither are on your side.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think they all have a degree of 'if you do not cooperate clause'; of course, they all meet a certain moral character as well, and in many regards muting any need for such clauses in general practice, lol. As far as anyone on my side? The only one who's on anyone's side is oneself when it really comes down to it at the end of the day.

There will never be anyone who everyone just loves, there will always be haters, critics, naysayers, and those with their own motivations for what they do. Even 'saviors' have critics; how is it so when they claim perfection? No leader will ever be perfect to at least some number of people.

In realizing this, I guess it can mean whatever to whoever.