Yale will require SATs again.

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[–]Dune1032[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Critics say that high SAT scores correlate with wealth because wealthy parents can pay for tutoring. No, the reason is that wealthy parents are probably intelligent, that's how they became wealthy. Their children inherited their intelligence.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is obviously true. What is insane is how many people have the audacity to lie about it, despite their lie being so transparent. Further it boggles the mind how they maintain any credibility. For some reason the majority of people are so stupid they think if a person tells white lies they aren't truly guilty of lying. They don't understand that a liar is a liar.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. This whole idea that it's prejudicial is nonsense. You also have a lot more discipline problems in public schools in the US for lower income kids. Even if they aren't involved, they're impacted by that environment. Still, what other measures do they have? College Board testing, but that's pretty late in the game. I think college admissions need a solid standard to assist, but SAT scores should never be the only factor and I'm pretty sure they never have been.

[–]BanditMcFuklebuck 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I smoked a blunt with my dead homie's ashes in it right before I took my THCs and his ghost appeared in the testing room and tole me all the answers in my ear and it helped me to do so good I got into Harverd!

[–]Iswearbymyfloralhat 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That doesnt sound right, but i dont know enough about harveerd to be sure.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

And rich families will hire tutors and ringers if required.

[–]Dune1032[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, but remember the article said that the SAT is a better indicator of academic success than grades. Tutoring does not explain that.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

SAT tutoring. It's a thing.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The article said that the SAT is a better indicator of academic success than grades. SAT tutoring cannot explain that.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Rich families only hire tutors if their kids need extra help in a subject. The belief that all rich kids have tutors for everything is completely absurd. Further, the claim that you can devalue the good test scores of all rich (white) kids on the completely made up claim that they must have had a tutor if they did well is purely classist and racist.

You have clearly been manipulated into believing a left wing narrative about education that is not real. You have watched too many documentaries on people who cheat the system and then extrapolated that to everyone according to your otherwise racist world view.

A tutor can not turn a stupid kid into a savant. They can not get an 80 IQ kid to understand geometry, statistics, chemistry, etc.

If a kid gets a high test score it is because they earned it. It is because they understand the material. And because they can do the work, and they are already up to speed with what they need to be they are qualified to go to an institution that has a fast pace curriculum. It does not matter if they learned it with or without a tutor. They still did the work and learned.

Similarly it does not matter if a kid who can not score well on the test could have got a decent score in the hypothetical situation that they had infinite access to tutors and money. They got the score that reflects their current, real world abilities. If they are injected into a demanding school through well meaning but stupid people they will only take a seat away from someone who deserves it more and who can succeed in it, only to flunk out.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are you a nigra apologist?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Name calling is stupid. Labels are stupid and a self imposed obstacle to your own understanding of the world. Do better.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see there are lots of self study books on SAT. Surely a dedicated kid would be able to study on his own.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When I was in UM Rolla now Science and Technology, they wanted to pay me to take classes for them the rich students. I could have made easy money taking the classes for them. They passed their SATs with a ringer as well.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The article said that studies show SAT scores are a better indicator of academic success than grades. Ringers taking SATs for rich students can't explain this.

[–]ShoahKahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rayziz cracka college.

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Another article on it contains the following quote:

The tendency of elite universities to blindly follow the latest whims of activists is a good reason for scepticism about the future of college admissions.

[–]BanditMcFuklebuck 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

All I know is, I junst want too get intoo a good collidge 🤷‍♂️

[–]HiddenFox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yale said its research has found that test scores are the single best predictor of a student's grades at the university, even after controlling for income and other demographic data.

It's self evident statements like this that make me question the validity of these organizations. How could they, as one of the top education centers in the free world not have understood the truth behind that statement. It's willful blindness in the name of social justice.