Why are cis men so anti-trans?

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[–]slavdude0 19 insightful - 8 fun19 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 8 fun -  (4 children)

Confused men are confused why straight men doesn't want to fuck them. Glorious.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The handful of straight men at Reddit are being gaslighted to perform gay acts with a psychologically unstable troon.

The delicate illusion may evaporate when the aroused "woman" pops a feminine chub.

The Reddit fork in the road. Gay, or bigot?

[–]jet199 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"straight men"

I really think this whole movement is so strong in the USA because they have a bunch of homosexual men so desperate not to be gay they are ready to force everyone to say the sky is green rather than admit it.

[–]weavilsatemyface 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You make a good point here.

I'm told1 that there's a subset of bi-curious men who won't admit to having a thing for other guys, but they'll fuck trans "women" because it gives them plausible deniability if they're ever found out. "Honest, I thought the dude was a chick!"

1 I read it somewhere on the internet, so it must be true.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like this fella.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

its not gay,

Yes, actually it is. In fact, it's more gay than just railing another man outright, because one or both people are lying about it and pretending otherwise.

i'm a woman, so why the fuck do you treat me like i'm not

Because you're not. You're a man playing "let's pretend," and the reasons for doing so could be mental illness, perversion, or criminal intent. Though, I'll be generous and assume it's not the last one in this particular situation, those troons are fixated on getting near real women, not other men.

i just want cis men to treat me the way they treat cis women. i don't understand.

They won't, because you're not a woman. And you do understand, but you've gotten so used to people taking your bullshit with a smile and a nod that you think your lie is truth. Unfortunately, for you, this isn't Orwell's 1984 and there is no MiniTru to enforce your fabricated reality.

And of course, the top comment is basically an endorsement for conversion therapy for those poor straight men in denial.

[–]clownworlddropout 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Gay guy disguised as a woman is upset straight guys aren't into him.

What a shocker.

[–]clownworlddropout 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Here are some of the reasons these lunatics give for why straight men are straight:

  • Abusive social conditioning
  • Society says they can't be human beings
  • Patriarchy and toxic masculinity
  • Privilege
  • Misogyny
  • Being a closeted straight (What the hell is even that?)
  • Peer pressure
  • Inflated egos
  • Insecurity
  • GeNITAL PrEfeREnce
  • Religion
  • Uneducated

What a bunch of straightphobes, love is love sir.

[–]thethrowawayReddit refugee 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ironically, I would argue that most of these points are reasons why men decide to troon out.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Methinks the ladyboy doth project too much!

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i just want cis men to treat me the way they treat cis women. i don't understand.

This is the part they will never get. There is actually a lot of men who are into women, not into men and entertain the idea of being into trans women.

But they won't see you as a real woman.

You see, trans are the exception. They can't accept they won't be the normality. That's why they will never be happy and always end up killing themselves. Not fully their fault given queer culture. But they always blame the straight white male don't they.

Imagine you being a tranny that can barely get sex as is (it's like a straight white male times double on the difficulty of getting sex) and refusing to have sex with someone that don't see you as what you call yourself as. Fucking retards.

cis women never do this to me. they've always been so inclusive, so understanding, so caring. and of course trans women/men accept me!

Lmao they went full cotton ceiling. Apparently to support you I need to have sex with you? That's why you should have no symphaty for these freaks killing themselves, fuck them. Rape culture propagator bastards.

Anyway.

This had to be one of the most eye opening threads in a while. Them going "straight white males (cishet in their words) never face adversity in life" and the way they describe them is basically as if they have a perfect life and never face problems. Fuck these people, they deserve all the prejudice and stereotypes.

[–]Conqueeftador 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the MOMENT you realise i'm trans, that, yeah, i have that one big scary thing, you shut it all down.

Well, yeah. Straight men don't want to date other men, duh.

its not gay

Two biological males dating is the literal definition of gay.

i just want cis men to treat me the way they treat cis women. i don't understand.

But you're not a woman. How is that difficult to understand?

cis women never do this to me. they've always been so inclusive, so understanding, so caring.

Cis women are afraid you'll chimp out at any moment so we placate you to keep you calm. We smile, nod, and give mental patients, muggers, and other deranged and dangerous men whatever they want when they have us cornered so they won't kill us. Cis women being nice to you isn't acceptance, it's survival.

If he'd just be a normal gay dude he wouldn't have any problems dating but he's running on a pathological need to deceive and control others. Not gonna work out well for him.

[–]catfishrising 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Several comments removed... surely anyone who dared tell the truth.

[–]ihaveyourdress 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And nobody will give most obvious answer.

[–]weavilsatemyface 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

About eight years ago I knew one guy with actual gender-dysphoria, he was a sensitive guy in his early 20s who was genuinely confused about who and what he was, and presented as a goth chick. I hope he finds peace for himself, regardless of whether he accepts he's a gay guy or a transsexual.

But all the rest of the trans people I've met, and there have been quite a few, are 100% living their fetish.

I used to get on fine with those men cosplaying as women so long as we all understood that they were guys who wanted to cosplay as women because it got them off. Yeah whatever dude, your kink is not my kink but so long as we all understand it's consensual and make-believe I'll go along with it for a laugh or out of politeness.

Then they started insisting that not only were they actual women, but they had always been actual women, and not only does everyone have to go along with that fantasy 24/7 but that gives them the right to barge into women's spaces like rape shelters, to have access to female prisons, to bully women and abuse them because "I'm the real victim here".

Fuck that.

Straight males cosplaying as women have all the privileges of being a man in a man's world, and now they're trying to grab the privileges of being a woman too -- and use that to erase women from the law.

Women have been fighting this war for a decade. Its long past time for the good men to stand up with them.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it doesn't matter if we click, if we get along, if we share similar interests and hobbies, if we flirt and laugh and tease, the MOMENT you realise i'm trans, that, yeah, i have that one big scary thing, you shut it all down

Deluded from the outset. No straight guy is flirting with him because the moment the other guy realizes he's trans is well before a single word is even spoken.

[–]UncleWillard56 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let's start with the language. Who gave the trans community the authority to dictate language to anyone? I'm not a "cis man" I'm just a straight man, if we even need to make that distinction given that the vast majority of males on the planet fall into that category.

And define "anti-trans." I could care less what someone identifies as, but I'm not going to ignore biological and observational facts for anyone. I don't consider that anti-trans but rather anti-trans activism.

[–]Horror-Swordfish 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the same thing as the women that think they can call themselves non-binary to get out of being catcalled or whatever. I remember a post where a woman was saying something like, "I got catcalled walking past a construction site but joke's on them, I'm non-binary so that makes them gay lol"

Okay, but you still got catcalled. Because outside of your weird little bubble, you can't just get people to see you as something you're not just because you say you are. Or at least, like with Rachael Dolezal, not for long. Even if you're the most passing trans woman in the world, you still don't have a vagina, and that's what straight guys want. Not "a woman."

[–]The_Best_Yak_Ever 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because we aren’t interested in beta dudes playing make believe. You do you, but do yourself far faaaaar away from me. It reminds me of some video I saw of an obvious trans identified male talking about how his therapist suggested he approach men. Like, no. No, don’t do that. It’s not fair to your patient and it’s not fair to men just going about their lives. Like, no. You are not a woman no matter how many tumblerinas and TRAs gas you up.

And reading the comments on that thread… holy fuck… philosophical diarrhea about everything but the obvious… you’re a male. Straight males don’t want to touch you. End of story.

[–]BluuDegenerate 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's impressive just how many insane dribbling ideologically possessed rants they have to explain this phenomenon instead of just stating the simple answer: You are not a woman