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[–]xoenix 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (29 children)

Wow, they're totally confused.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1243k0v/this_whole_nashville_shooting_thing_is_going_to/

Confused here as well.

They're right though this is going to definitely not make them look good. Though I'll give them the benefit of a doubt and say most certainly won't actually committ murder, depending on what is actually in that mannifesto we may be looking at a bonefied hate crime (well let's be real here if it's in response to the Tennessee law (unconfirmed if it is at this point) it's essentially vigilante terrorism)

Regardless it's a good time to self reflection and consider why screaming genocide and upping the rhetoric on Twitter and other places isn't a good idea. You may just be a neurotic idiot screaming how not getting your way is erasing you as a person but there's no shortage of crazy individuals out there who will take the genocide accusations literally as a call to arms.

[–]Chipit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Jane Fonda literally called for murder a week or so ago.

Nobody batted an eye.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

No people called her out on it.

I'm curious what will come up from the mannifesto.

Still let's be perfectly civil here in no way does gunning down school children in cold blood reflect what Jane Fonda said even though her comments were pretty indefensible.

[–]Chipit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

She literally called for murder.

That's not being "perfectly civil", it's a celebrity's calling for murder and her audience responding.

It's a consistent view, this is the woman who went to Hanoi during the Vietnam war to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah she's a right cunt. She said "murder" as a solution to what to do about pro life activists. Call her a right cunt for that.

She didn't say "go kill elementary school kids".

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Why does this read like you're playing defense for Jane Fonda?

If wealthy celebrities want help online, they'll hire some. Don't be a sucker. Why would anyone work like this for free?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Because she said to murder anti-abortion activists. She didn't say to murder 9 year old children.

Let the cunt spin her own rope. We don't need to make it for her.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Defending Hanoi Jane. Super sus.

I'm almost getting the idea that this is yet another paid poster account, here to disrupt our conversations on this site.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's bad enough watching the left base entire arguments on things that nobody actually said. So when someone makes an effort to avoid falling into that same trap by accurately presenting an inciting statement, in context, can you maybe not be a stereotypical NPC and start with your "must be a paid shill" scripted response? I know it's a challenge, but I'm confident you can manage it if you really try.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She said:

Fonda told the panel: "We have experienced many decades now of having agency over our body of being able to determine when and how many children we have... We know what that's done for our lives. We're not going back. I don't care what the laws are. We're not going back to this."

Fonda was also asked what other alternatives there were to protesting the ruling in the streets. The resurfaced video of her appearance on The View was published to Twitter and has had more than 20 million views.

"Well, I've thought of murder," Fonda told co-host Joy Behar, who said that it was a joke.

Now I think this could mean she thinks killing the children of pro life activists is ok, because it might send a message. Either way she didn't say who to murder. This is why one should be careful with words.

[–]William_World 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

she was right about vietnam

we were the bad guys in that

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So Vietnam is a very interesting situation to look at from a more neutral standpoint. There aren't really any good guys per say in that war. It was nasty as fuck. America was supporting some rich asshole dictator with a harem in the south who just assumed to get rich off of the war rather than actually winning and in the end he was assassinated for it and his country was overrun with the communists. On the other hand you've got foreign educated revolutionary Ho Chi Minh in the north who has ostensibly noble motives which engenders a very rabidly loyal fighting force but who is willing to perpetrate whatever atrocities are necessary to promote the formation of the people's republic as is customary with the communists, though admittedly he is far more palatable than the Mao's or Stalins of the world.

Vietnam I think was basically the first time that the Americans started to wake up to the facets of war spelled out in "The Principles of Oligarchic Collectivism" which we started to see as early as the Korean war but we still had some right assholes like McArthur in there ready to kick ass and take names.

Fonda's crime there isn't so much saying "hey guys maybe we should rethink this war", she basically went over and played propagandist for the northerners did the photo shoots and all that and bought their propoganda that the northerns were all just peaceful farmers while her countrymen were literally getting forced to go over there just to get carved up and spit out by any matter of Vietcong traps. I've been there. I've seen them. They're very resourceful in their killing of Americans. You must give them credit for improvising.

Now the Vietcong were certainly justified in protecting their homeland, but it's not Fonda's homeland, and she wasn't really justified in going over there during the war and basically playing Tokyo Jane for them.

[–]William_World 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

jane was right, doesn't matter who's homeland it was. We shouldn't support whatever our USA military does just cuz.

The rich didn't want communism to spread cuz they would get anastasia'd or guillotined.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jane could have said her piece I'd have supported her. She went over and helped em with their propoganda piece and basically pissed off the lot of anyone who wasn't an incurable hippie.

The rich didn't want communism to spread cuz they would get anastasia'd or guillotined.

Jane Fonda, fucking movie star? She doesn't count as one of the rich? I have no proof to say her PR stunt wasn't planned to sink any sort of anti-nam war sentiment in the public eye. But that's what happened.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

she was on the right side of history although she didn't understand the hows or whys. Not many did, and still don't. Media won't say. The Fonda family was rich but not the ultra rich. Of course back then being against the vietnam war was similar to being communist in the 50s where the mcarthists would come for you but they went too far, the rich don't want true red blooded anti communist conservatives being in charge either, they might get guillotined by them too. They want both sides constantly fighting with a 50-50% split about of power and no one guillotining them. But the conservatives don't organize so won;t be the ones to win in the end.

[–]YJaewedwqewq 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, it's almost like murdering children is bad even if those children are royalty. The rich don't want communism to spread because capitalism is a much better slave system for them to profiteer off of.

Of course fags like you will sit here hypocritically defending rich elites like Fonda and simultaneously saying the rich should be killed. You're not so different from the TRAs defending the tranny shooting children for daring to exist in a "transphobic" state/country or whatever.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i see what you're saying but the cold hard truth is it's good to make the rich afraid of us. The main reason they want to ban guns is cuz they're afraid of us and that keeps them from going too far. If they don't want their kids to be anastasia'd they could stop being evil.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You know who killed more communists than anyone on the planet? Communists.

They should have killed Jane Fonda while she was there. They kill anyone who owns a cow and a pig. But no, the useful idiots were useful, so she got a photo opportunity and a pat on the back.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's ok for communusts to kill in self defense. stop trying to go to war with them and sabotaging them.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

she was right about vietnam

we were the bad guys in that

I'm not so sure about that anymore. If we didn't intervene the entire country would have gone communist. That wouldn't be good for Vietnam or the world. Also these proxy wars keep larger, direct conflicts between world powers from occuring and potentially leading to another world war. Everyone seems happy enough to do it with Ukraine.

The Vietnam War was one of the first propaganda wars we lost.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

communism goes wrong when capitalists sabotage it and drive it to militarism to defend itself

[–]LyingSpirit472 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Exactly. This could be either the best thing to happen or the worst thing to happen for trans rights, depending on their response to the shooter.

If trans people rise up as one and say "no, fuck this, we don't accept them as one of us, we're as disgusted as you are about this", then that could help people realize that trans people still have a soul and know when their own group does evil like any other group.

If they try circling the wagons like they did for Chris-Chan or other people who commit atrocities with "um, acktually, this person was trans and you misgendering her is literally worse than what they did" bullshit, it'll be the worst thing to happen to them.

The big reason for trans rights pushback is how few people know someone who's trans and believed the lies of them being boogeyman. Now's the time to show those people it's all lies and you're not all like this.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think the pushback is due to a twofold issue of social media politicizing it with brave new world style mnemonic nonsense and of the basic expansion of "gender affirming care" beyond what it used to be where after years of vetting and psychiatric visits you could get on hormones or get surgeries as an adult after you sifted out the homosexuals in denial and fetishists leaving only a small minority of extremely determined transitioners whatever that implies. It did mean the people knew what they were getting into. You can some detransitioners slip through back then but they often were doing it young and going through Thailand when they weren't getting approved here.

That's now changed and they're doing a number of things that is naturally going to enrage the general population.

  1. Bathrooms. Someone who has gone through all the operations and everything isn't going to be a big issue here. The problem is we just let people go with where they identify now. Clearly some rapist is going to identify as a girl so they can access the girls room to rape people. Is this person trans? Does that mean all trans people are rapists? Of course not. But you've gone thrown your lot in with the rapists by being stupid and creating this easy loophole that will be taken advantage of.

  2. Doing shit behind parents backs. Turns out parents don't like that. Also turns out that pedophiles love it since it can give them a way to groom and deflect all suspicion. Doesn't mean everyone doing it is a pedophile but again, wait and you'll eventually see "teacher than encouraged student to transition caught fucking student" bound to happen eventually. Will blow up in their face. As there is no excuse to hide this from the parents. None.

If you want to claim it's dangerous for the child, then fucking remove them from the parents of course. If the child fears for their own safety from the parents then the child shouldn't be with them eh? But you let the kid go home with them anyway except with "our little secret that you are actually a boy" um that's retarded. We both know you can't actually claim the child is in actual danger and that argument is bullshit. Because you'd not send the kid home to the dangerous parent if you were even the very least bit convinced of abuse, you are a fucking mandatory reporter. Your whole career would be fucked if something happened, don't give me that bullshit. Plus if the kid is socially out in class that means it's not a secret, the other kids know, they'll tell their parents, and their parents will tell the parents of the kid so they'll find out anyway. Fucking duh. If I was a kid in class I'd just tell the parents directly. Have you thought this out at all?

Finally people "demanding you respect them" bitch please. Didn't you ever learn that those teachers that went around screaming at the students to respect them were the ones that were the least respected and had the worst nicknames imaginable and were subjected to the worst pranks? Respect is earned not given. And you've got to respect yourself before anyone else does. You won't even care if someone calls you a name or "misgenders" you if you are confident with yourself. Like who gives a fuck?

No they've gone with stupid shit for years and it's going to basically blow back in their face eventually. This "movement" was always basically doomed to fail. Eventually the crazy people who have been encouraged are going to turn on their handlers Frankenstein style. Literally. I can't imagine how many doctors are going to get sued into oblivion in 20 years.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you want to claim it's dangerous for the child, then fucking remove them from the parents of course. If the child fears for their own safety from the parents then the child shouldn't be with them eh? But you let the kid go home with them anyway except with "our little secret that you are actually a boy" um that's retarded.

On the plus side with this one, it's so retarded that these people don't even realize that if these people really are grooming the kid, this would be a stone groove for the person doing it.

You think it's dangerous for this kid you're grooming to be with their parents and you let them stay with the parents, you know full well you're full of shit and there's no danger to the kid at home.

You DO try to get them removed from the parents, the teacher/groomer doing it gets a chance to completely knock the parents out of the picture for good. They can get the kid taken out of their custody, make it so the parents don't even have a chance to get the kid back and are forced away from them under threat of jail...and all you have to do is "this child needs a better house than foster care, I'll happily take control of them as a guardian" and you get to take control of the kid for good, with no hope of the parents being able to fight it. It's a completely legal way to kidnap the kid you're grooming and a way to elope with the object of your screwed up fantasies under your thumb forever, the parents being helpless to stop you.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure but do this and you paint a target on your back for scrutiny.

Plus you'd actually need to produce evidence and argue your position in court.

[–]SerpensInferna 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trans people are not going to rise up against this. They are utterly incapable of doing so. Their heads are so far up their self-victimized asses they have no idea what reality is. If this is the death knell of the trans movement I'll god damn take it.