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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

No people called her out on it.

I'm curious what will come up from the mannifesto.

Still let's be perfectly civil here in no way does gunning down school children in cold blood reflect what Jane Fonda said even though her comments were pretty indefensible.

[–]Chipit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

She literally called for murder.

That's not being "perfectly civil", it's a celebrity's calling for murder and her audience responding.

It's a consistent view, this is the woman who went to Hanoi during the Vietnam war to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah she's a right cunt. She said "murder" as a solution to what to do about pro life activists. Call her a right cunt for that.

She didn't say "go kill elementary school kids".

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Why does this read like you're playing defense for Jane Fonda?

If wealthy celebrities want help online, they'll hire some. Don't be a sucker. Why would anyone work like this for free?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Because she said to murder anti-abortion activists. She didn't say to murder 9 year old children.

Let the cunt spin her own rope. We don't need to make it for her.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Defending Hanoi Jane. Super sus.

I'm almost getting the idea that this is yet another paid poster account, here to disrupt our conversations on this site.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's bad enough watching the left base entire arguments on things that nobody actually said. So when someone makes an effort to avoid falling into that same trap by accurately presenting an inciting statement, in context, can you maybe not be a stereotypical NPC and start with your "must be a paid shill" scripted response? I know it's a challenge, but I'm confident you can manage it if you really try.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

95% are paid shills here so it's always a safe bet tho. I think that might be a main reason for shilling tho, so we can't trust each other.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure how you read in a "defense of Jane Fonda" into comments like "she's a right cunt" "let her spin her own rope" "what she said is pretty indefensible".

It's either a bad faith effort at starting a stupid argument when you have none of your own, or it's just pure stupidity.

I believe it's always a good idea to assume good faith.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've come to realize that the site's motto is more accurately rendered thusly: Saidit - Say your truth (but if we think you're a paid actor, defending (((them))), or otherwise a potential competitor to our truth, we'll try to deplatform you like a pack of Reddit mods).

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She said:

Fonda told the panel: "We have experienced many decades now of having agency over our body of being able to determine when and how many children we have... We know what that's done for our lives. We're not going back. I don't care what the laws are. We're not going back to this."

Fonda was also asked what other alternatives there were to protesting the ruling in the streets. The resurfaced video of her appearance on The View was published to Twitter and has had more than 20 million views.

"Well, I've thought of murder," Fonda told co-host Joy Behar, who said that it was a joke.

Now I think this could mean she thinks killing the children of pro life activists is ok, because it might send a message. Either way she didn't say who to murder. This is why one should be careful with words.

[–]William_World 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

she was right about vietnam

we were the bad guys in that

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So Vietnam is a very interesting situation to look at from a more neutral standpoint. There aren't really any good guys per say in that war. It was nasty as fuck. America was supporting some rich asshole dictator with a harem in the south who just assumed to get rich off of the war rather than actually winning and in the end he was assassinated for it and his country was overrun with the communists. On the other hand you've got foreign educated revolutionary Ho Chi Minh in the north who has ostensibly noble motives which engenders a very rabidly loyal fighting force but who is willing to perpetrate whatever atrocities are necessary to promote the formation of the people's republic as is customary with the communists, though admittedly he is far more palatable than the Mao's or Stalins of the world.

Vietnam I think was basically the first time that the Americans started to wake up to the facets of war spelled out in "The Principles of Oligarchic Collectivism" which we started to see as early as the Korean war but we still had some right assholes like McArthur in there ready to kick ass and take names.

Fonda's crime there isn't so much saying "hey guys maybe we should rethink this war", she basically went over and played propagandist for the northerners did the photo shoots and all that and bought their propoganda that the northerns were all just peaceful farmers while her countrymen were literally getting forced to go over there just to get carved up and spit out by any matter of Vietcong traps. I've been there. I've seen them. They're very resourceful in their killing of Americans. You must give them credit for improvising.

Now the Vietcong were certainly justified in protecting their homeland, but it's not Fonda's homeland, and she wasn't really justified in going over there during the war and basically playing Tokyo Jane for them.

[–]William_World 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

jane was right, doesn't matter who's homeland it was. We shouldn't support whatever our USA military does just cuz.

The rich didn't want communism to spread cuz they would get anastasia'd or guillotined.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jane could have said her piece I'd have supported her. She went over and helped em with their propoganda piece and basically pissed off the lot of anyone who wasn't an incurable hippie.

The rich didn't want communism to spread cuz they would get anastasia'd or guillotined.

Jane Fonda, fucking movie star? She doesn't count as one of the rich? I have no proof to say her PR stunt wasn't planned to sink any sort of anti-nam war sentiment in the public eye. But that's what happened.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

she was on the right side of history although she didn't understand the hows or whys. Not many did, and still don't. Media won't say. The Fonda family was rich but not the ultra rich. Of course back then being against the vietnam war was similar to being communist in the 50s where the mcarthists would come for you but they went too far, the rich don't want true red blooded anti communist conservatives being in charge either, they might get guillotined by them too. They want both sides constantly fighting with a 50-50% split about of power and no one guillotining them. But the conservatives don't organize so won;t be the ones to win in the end.

[–]YJaewedwqewq 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, it's almost like murdering children is bad even if those children are royalty. The rich don't want communism to spread because capitalism is a much better slave system for them to profiteer off of.

Of course fags like you will sit here hypocritically defending rich elites like Fonda and simultaneously saying the rich should be killed. You're not so different from the TRAs defending the tranny shooting children for daring to exist in a "transphobic" state/country or whatever.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i see what you're saying but the cold hard truth is it's good to make the rich afraid of us. The main reason they want to ban guns is cuz they're afraid of us and that keeps them from going too far. If they don't want their kids to be anastasia'd they could stop being evil.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You know who killed more communists than anyone on the planet? Communists.

They should have killed Jane Fonda while she was there. They kill anyone who owns a cow and a pig. But no, the useful idiots were useful, so she got a photo opportunity and a pat on the back.

[–]William_World 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's ok for communusts to kill in self defense. stop trying to go to war with them and sabotaging them.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

she was right about vietnam

we were the bad guys in that

I'm not so sure about that anymore. If we didn't intervene the entire country would have gone communist. That wouldn't be good for Vietnam or the world. Also these proxy wars keep larger, direct conflicts between world powers from occuring and potentially leading to another world war. Everyone seems happy enough to do it with Ukraine.

The Vietnam War was one of the first propaganda wars we lost.

[–]William_World 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

communism goes wrong when capitalists sabotage it and drive it to militarism to defend itself