To Help Keep Saidit Site Performance In Perspective - https://saidit.net/s/AskSaidIt/comments/bksz/cloudflare_check_sucks/147oj?context=3

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Quoting magnora7: Saidit gets about a third of a million page load requests a month, and probably half of those are fraudulent (originating from malicious DDOS attacks). During a heavy attack day we might have 10x the page load requests of normal, during which probably 98% of the page requests are fraudulent. Cloudflare ensures (most of) those fraudulent connection attempts stop at cloudflare and don't hit our main server, which is how we're able to stay online.

We've been DDOS attacked multiple times daily for 5 years now. As a result we can never turn our DDOS protection off. So someone out there is setting aside resources on the regular to do this. For years.

I remember the day saidit opened to the public, before we had a registration captcha set up, someone used a script to register all the active usernames from the subreddits where I showed people saidit, and then they auto-registered thousands of usernames, and stole everyone's usernames who might've migrated. Just to frustrate migration and growth of this site. They did this literally hours after we opened the website, they had an automated script ready to go. Quoting magnora7 This place has been under nonstop attack since day 1, via every method possible from hardware attacks to social engineering, it has honestly surprised me how bad it's been over the last 5 years, I would've never guessed it was this bad. Whoever these groups are, they really don't want forums like saidit to exist.

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[–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The freedom to communicate honestly, even with a small group of people, is far more scary to these guys than the freedom to speak your mind to an empty room, which they would prefer.

[–]SheKnowsWhatAllKnow 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

kikes truly hate not having the ability to suppress posts with downvotes. This site is a potential gold mine.

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Pulled from the above thread, real time network network attacks being caught by cloudflare. The very bottom chart is interactive.

https://radar.cloudflare.com/security-and-attacks

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Why are the active attacks from China to the US so relatively low?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I noticed the same thing, and the US is the absolute worst abuser.

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does this represent zombie computers? Maybe the attacks never get traced back to their home countries. Would explain both lack of Chinese attacks and how many "originate" from the U.S.

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I also find it curious that Israel is missing from the chart entirely. Surely that can't be accurate.

[–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Keep in mind that this only shows traffic, not who's actually responsible necessarily. For example the US has a ton of computers, both consumer and infrastructure, so it's no surprise it's the biggest source and destination of attacks.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why are the active attacks from China to the US so relatively low?

Why would you imagine they should be higher? Most cyber attacks originate in the USA, in both senses of the word:

  • the botnets, hijacked computers, devices and services are based in the US;
  • and the attack was originated by bad actors in the US (mostly three-letter agencies).

[–]EternalSunset 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This place has been under nonstop attack since day 1, via every method possible from hardware attacks to social engineering, it has honestly surprised me how bad it's been over the last 5 years, I would've never guessed it was this bad. Whoever these groups are, they really don't want forums like saidit to exist.

I can only imagine it must be one out of 2 possibilities:
1. Reddit and other websites like it paying some third party to sabotage the competition before it can take off.
2. Government actors trying to suppress the rise of online spaces that have genuine free speech.

[–]dinker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

it would be so simple to destroy this website with a simple user script that floods this site with gibberish posts and comments.

cloudflare would be of no protection to you.

[–]Erasmus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The old Notabug approach.

[–]neolib 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hi fellow Notabug user!

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

magnora7: Saidit gets about a third of a million page load requests a month,

That is because everyone has to lead the page 5 times to get Cloudflare to let them view each Said it page, then reload the page for 20 minutes before it will let you submit a comment or make a post. That kind of bullshit will sure boost your page load count.

I suspect both Cloudflare and Saidit are confusing TorBrowser users with bots and DDoS's. Cloudflare has made Tor a whipping boy for a long time and generally shits on it when ever possible.