Saidit is currently undergoing the largest DDOS attack we've ever had

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[–]FediNetizen 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

I was one of the people in the comments of those threads and for the record my concerns are entirely genuine. It's just really tiring to interact with people that have obsessive racial worldviews (whether they're right-wing or left-wing). Their views usually come from a place of ignorance and it's just tedious because they often get hostile when you tell them they're wrong

Also, even though I've been on the internet a long time and have a tolerance for extremism personally, that stuff scares away the normies, which will make it harder for the site to grow. I'd really love to be a part of a site like the reddit I knew 10 years ago.

[–]magnora7[S] 66 insightful - 3 fun66 insightful - 2 fun67 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

Their views usually come from a place of ignorance and it's just tedious because they often get hostile when you tell them they're wrong

You don't seem to understand what we're saying. These people don't actually hold these views. They're just saying this stuff, and getting in to fights, because it drives people away from the website.

They're intentionally starting fights and trolling people all while pretending to be "extremists". Their main goal is to drive normal people away, not to actually promote their ideology. The ideology is just a cover to cause chaos and damage the information quality of the forum

[–]Fitter_Happier 35 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

trolling people all while pretending to be "extremists".

The term you're looking for is False Flag Attacks and is the oldest trick in the book militarily.

[–]magnora7[S] 25 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 4 fun -  (19 children)

I guess it technically is a false flag attack because they're pretending to be another ideology they don't believe, I've never thought about it like that before. However instead of dropping bombs, they're just making a mess of a good forum

[–]Fitter_Happier 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

And false flags are always used as a pretense to attack. It's ancient, but a more recent example; Hitler had German troops dress as Poles and attack and actually kill Germans hence riling up the Germans to attack Poland. Another example; a few years ago thousands of bomb threats were phoned in to synagogues, they all came from an Israeli teen presumably trying to get the US government to crack down on White Nationalists.

[–]magnora7[S] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Hm yes true. What you say reminds me of this, where they were talking about planning to do the same thing to Iran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYnjBJZxpGY

[–]Fitter_Happier 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

You know DDOS attacks are illegal don't you? i.e. you are a victim of criminal activity, this isn't just some "activists", these are criminals attacking you. You have every right to call the authorities.

[–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I mean in theory, yes, but there's widespread DDOS attacks across the internet and they're not able to stop them so I doubt they'll care about us or be able to do anything if they did

[–]Fitter_Happier 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I know you're busy as hell and probably broke to boot, but I bet if Wells Fargo calls the FBI and says they're under DDOS attack they get some resources. My completely ignorant belief is the government uses DDOS attacks as a way to passively silence thought criminals by allowing Cloudflare et al to deny services to said thought criminals, services they themselves should be providing as part of law enforcement. Much as they stand down when The Right marches and Antifa attacks them.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Well I will just say for the record that we've never had any issues with cloudflare ever. But I can see what you are saying.

And also if you think the feds are corrupted like that, then why do you think calling them is a good idea? haha

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

its illegal except when the state does it no another nation, say the U.S. attacks russia with a ddos, lul. its not illegal, the state is just a collection of hippiecrites

[–]Fitter_Happier 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Whatever your theories about international blah blah blah, it is illegal in the US to do a DDOS attack on a website. I don't even have to tell you to google it. Moron.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

no it isnt, its legal, 2A, just digital guns, your the moron, dummy

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What to do when the criminals ARE the authorities though?

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ethnic Germans in Poland were being attacked by military and civilians for many months, Hitler finally went to help them. What you are citing is Russian propaganda.

[–]Fitter_Happier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What I am citing is David Irving's "Hitler's War". Obviously could be wrong but his whole schtick was to only use primary sources so I tend to believe him.

[–]Sage 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Hitler had German troops dress as Poles and attack and actually kill Germans hence riling up the Germans to attack Poland" Source?

[–]Fitter_Happier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Hitler's War" by David Irving. If you bust my balls I may even find the page but until then you'll have to trust me, it's in there as I just read it.

[–]motionlessoracle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can you sticky a post or a message to the top of /s/all explaining this? Or some kind of message every user is guaranteed to see once?

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nice 5D chess

[–]bobbobbybob 28 insightful - 6 fun28 insightful - 5 fun29 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

I'd really love to be a part of a site like the reddit I knew 10 years ago.

Stop trying to force saidit to be your own personal website. We have our rules, we have our flavour, and its not one thing or another. You can fit in, or FUCK OFF.

It's just really tiring to interact with people that have obsessive racial worldviews

The problem is that YOU define what is 'radical'. So you say that the jewish question is verboten, and demand it is silenced. That in itself is a radical viewpoint for people who have taken off the blinkers and are aware of the undercurrents in the world. But then people like you say that even talking about these things is tantamount to declaring genocide.

it is all so tiring.

Just let people speak, and if you don't like it, say other things that are more engaging or interesting

[–]jet199 22 insightful - 14 fun22 insightful - 13 fun23 insightful - 14 fun -  (3 children)

I've just read that you are just pretending to be racist to make saidit look back so I guess we can just ignore you now.

[–]Nelumbo 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

lol

[–]Extract 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

On a serious note - of course there will be real anti-semites mixed among the shills.

I'll tell you another secret - you could have been laughing at them and ignoring them from the very get-go.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

?

[–]Honestanonymous 21 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

People are speaking dude...you're the one screaming at them to fuck off if they don't fit in, whats wrong with you?

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah, so ignore 90% of my post and be a dick, you can fuck off too.

[–]Locke 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm who started one of the threads (and I really appreciate your comments, Fedinetizen.). My concerns are genuine too. I said my piece and I'm glad it was seen.

All I wanted was for mods to see it and I'm glad you did. I was very clear on I just don't want people driven away from the site. Please do something about it if you agree that's all these people are trying to do. I'm not here to only post about that sort of thing, but it bothered me a lot as a new user to see the front page flooded with that. I already know a few people who considered trying Saidit after recent Reddit bans who were turned off by those posts and haven't bothered creating an account here. I'm not disputing their right to make the posts and I agree posting a greater variety of content will help, but we're not going to get more posts if more people don't post here.

The gender critical subs are very active and when I include them in my front page the conspiracy theory and antisemitism posts are drowned out. I've seen the justification for some of these not being in /s/all is they don't allow debate. The people quickly turning to personal attacks because I called them out obviously aren't allowing debate either. Why allow them in /s/all? I'm not saying ban them, I just really don't understand the reasoning behind allowing them to flood the front page, especially if you agree that scaring away new users is exactly what they're after. Why give them the chance?

[–]soundsalad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Pointing out that a certain group of people disproportionately occupy very influential sectors of society and even claim themselves that they control Hollywood is not inherently racist. It's a provable fact.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

True but that's not the shit we're complaining about and you know it.

[–]soundsalad 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who the fuck are you? Don't tell me what I do or don't know. Your post does not indicate at all that you are complaining about anything other than the fact that Jewish Supremacy dominates our society.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now you're getting into the territory I was talking about. It's true to say that black people in america commit more crimes per capita. Where you start talking about how that proves genetic inferiority is where you go off the deep end.

In the same way, it's fine to point out that in comparison to their population Jewish people do wield a lot of influence, but it doesn't mean society is dominated by Jews or that there's some kind of mass conspiracy. That's where you lose people.