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[–]magnora7[S] 164 insightful - 11 fun164 insightful - 10 fun165 insightful - 11 fun -  (170 children)

Also we're not only being technologically attacked, but culturally attacked as well. Please read this post from /u/Extract and be aware of the full situation regarding these attacks on saidit:

What if I told you, that the last refugee wave was large enough for some propaganda organizations to put this site on their radar?

What if I told you the concern trolls posting those threads/comments are the first wave of shills, whose goal is to slowly corrupt this site the same way most platforms (like many subreddits, in their time) get corrupted? Notice how most of those concern trolls highlight problems that could actually be solved by their own participation - but, that would actually help the site, while their goal is clearly to (slowly) undermine it.

They will also cite the new influx of users as a good thing, and threaten it ends if $demandList isn't met, while in reality much of this activity is artificially created by those shills (not most votes, just the early spike that makes it visible enough for other people to upvote it for the sake of discussion).

This isn't going to stop, by the way - this is only going to get worse the more popular this site gets bigger.

I think some things on the top of the front page these last few days reflect this type of cultural attack, and I think the users of saidit need to be aware that this activity is happening. This is why voat and so many other alternatives have problems with their culture being hijacked by dedicated extremists. It's a deliberate tactic to poison the well, to lower the signal-to-noise ratio and drive others away. People need to be aware that this is a real problem.

[–]pyrit135 72 insightful - 4 fun72 insightful - 3 fun73 insightful - 4 fun -  (46 children)

Very insightful. We need to be on our toes. So many posts making it to the front page advocating censorship.

[–]magnora7[S] 97 insightful - 7 fun97 insightful - 6 fun98 insightful - 7 fun -  (44 children)

It's a problem-reaction-solution situation. They're creating the problem by posting terrible things that technically don't break site rules, and then also posting soon after "How dare saidit allow all these terrible things?" And then whatever our response, saidit can be made to look bad.

If we remove the terrible things (that don't break site rules) then we get accused of censorship, but if we ignore the people concern-trolling about the terrible things then it looks like we're tacitly condoning it. It's a lose-lose position to be in, but that's the whole point of the attack, and why it works in the first place.

I'm starting to think the only real way to overcome this is for the users of the website to become wise to these tactics, so that's why I've decided to speak out about these tactics, because people need to know.

[–]FediNetizen 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

I was one of the people in the comments of those threads and for the record my concerns are entirely genuine. It's just really tiring to interact with people that have obsessive racial worldviews (whether they're right-wing or left-wing). Their views usually come from a place of ignorance and it's just tedious because they often get hostile when you tell them they're wrong

Also, even though I've been on the internet a long time and have a tolerance for extremism personally, that stuff scares away the normies, which will make it harder for the site to grow. I'd really love to be a part of a site like the reddit I knew 10 years ago.

[–]magnora7[S] 66 insightful - 3 fun66 insightful - 2 fun67 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

Their views usually come from a place of ignorance and it's just tedious because they often get hostile when you tell them they're wrong

You don't seem to understand what we're saying. These people don't actually hold these views. They're just saying this stuff, and getting in to fights, because it drives people away from the website.

They're intentionally starting fights and trolling people all while pretending to be "extremists". Their main goal is to drive normal people away, not to actually promote their ideology. The ideology is just a cover to cause chaos and damage the information quality of the forum

[–]Fitter_Happier 35 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

trolling people all while pretending to be "extremists".

The term you're looking for is False Flag Attacks and is the oldest trick in the book militarily.

[–]magnora7[S] 25 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 4 fun -  (19 children)

I guess it technically is a false flag attack because they're pretending to be another ideology they don't believe, I've never thought about it like that before. However instead of dropping bombs, they're just making a mess of a good forum

[–]Fitter_Happier 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

And false flags are always used as a pretense to attack. It's ancient, but a more recent example; Hitler had German troops dress as Poles and attack and actually kill Germans hence riling up the Germans to attack Poland. Another example; a few years ago thousands of bomb threats were phoned in to synagogues, they all came from an Israeli teen presumably trying to get the US government to crack down on White Nationalists.

[–]magnora7[S] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Hm yes true. What you say reminds me of this, where they were talking about planning to do the same thing to Iran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYnjBJZxpGY

[–]Fitter_Happier 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

You know DDOS attacks are illegal don't you? i.e. you are a victim of criminal activity, this isn't just some "activists", these are criminals attacking you. You have every right to call the authorities.

[–]bobbobbybob 28 insightful - 6 fun28 insightful - 5 fun29 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

I'd really love to be a part of a site like the reddit I knew 10 years ago.

Stop trying to force saidit to be your own personal website. We have our rules, we have our flavour, and its not one thing or another. You can fit in, or FUCK OFF.

It's just really tiring to interact with people that have obsessive racial worldviews

The problem is that YOU define what is 'radical'. So you say that the jewish question is verboten, and demand it is silenced. That in itself is a radical viewpoint for people who have taken off the blinkers and are aware of the undercurrents in the world. But then people like you say that even talking about these things is tantamount to declaring genocide.

it is all so tiring.

Just let people speak, and if you don't like it, say other things that are more engaging or interesting

[–]jet199 22 insightful - 14 fun22 insightful - 13 fun23 insightful - 14 fun -  (3 children)

I've just read that you are just pretending to be racist to make saidit look back so I guess we can just ignore you now.

[–]Nelumbo 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

lol

[–]Extract 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

On a serious note - of course there will be real anti-semites mixed among the shills.

I'll tell you another secret - you could have been laughing at them and ignoring them from the very get-go.

[–]Honestanonymous 21 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

People are speaking dude...you're the one screaming at them to fuck off if they don't fit in, whats wrong with you?

[–]anarchy753 53 insightful - 1 fun53 insightful - 0 fun54 insightful - 1 fun -  (69 children)

Gonna be honest here, I think there's connections being made where there aren't necessarily any.

I made an account anticipating the shutdown of LGBdroptheT, rightfully so.

Just because I want to communicate in a space that isn't going full nazi on free speech doesn't mean that I enjoy having constant anti-jewish racism on the front page. If it were just a sub, then go for it, but I don't particularly want to mute "politics" and just the general "saidit" subs because daily they're spammed with racist bullshit.

It's not that I want censorship, it's that I want these views to have their own distinct places that people are able to mute and hide without hiding the most predominant subs.

It's a forum that will allow you to post views others see as racist, that doesn't mean that everyone here is only here to be constantly bombarded by it.

[–]ABlueSkilttle 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (63 children)

This is my problem. I'm tired of internet extremism, but the extremists will happily work tirelessly all day every day for free. As if they ever persuade anyone to their asinine conspiracies. The issue is, without the ability for people to filter them out, or filter out places they congregate, they take over for the reason you describe. I'm sick of seeing that shit, and if people can't get it off their feed they'll definitely leave eventually.

[–]anarchy753 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Absolutely. Like I'm more than happy for people to have their crazy theories, and I can hide conspiracy theories from /s/all but then politics is flooded with it. Not the worst, if I actually care about politics I'm probably looking at a sub about a specific branch. Then they're in Saidit, and videos, and whatever and basically anything that hits the front page is filled with them. Just keep it contained so we don't have it forced on us.

[–]ABlueSkilttle 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I assure you, once you can block individual people (nevermind apparently you have to do it from the inbox page - I forgot old reddit - but sadly not from a users posts), I'm going to be creating a long list. Hopefully the website owner has the sense to implement some sort of filtering sooner, rather than later. It's one thing to host their nonsense, it's quite another to force everyone to be seeing it. Perhaps the best way forward is for people to make their own pages that explicitly disallow off-topic conversations, or racism, in the meanwhile.

Really, these people just perpetually flood wherever they can from /pol/ to try hijacking other places with their BS. Only way to deal with them is to ignore them.

[–][deleted] 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

They will also cite the new influx of users as a good thing, and threaten it ends if $demandList isn't met, while in reality much of this activity is artificially created by those shills (not most votes, just the early spike that makes it visible enough for other people to upvote it for the sake of discussion).

This isn't going to stop, by the way - this is only going to get worse the more popular this site gets bigger.

Ironically, giving everyone freedom also gives intelligence agencies and large organizations the opportunity to be deliberately malicious. What can you even do about it? There are no simple answers.

[–]magnora7[S] 27 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 4 fun -  (24 children)

What can you even do about it?

I think this is the biggest question on the internet right now. No one has solved it, and I'm not sure it's solvable either. But it's clear some approaches are better than others, and I'd like to think saidit's design will help us weather these types of attacks

[–][deleted] 34 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Saidit is definitely a step in the right direction. It takes the best aspects of what came before and attempts to improve. The work you do here is admirable for sure.

[–]magnora7[S] 23 insightful - 5 fun23 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you.

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    [–]bobbobbybob 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    being able to block users (from one's personal experience) without needing to engage in pms with them first would let us create comfy silos for ourselves, whilst not changing the site for others

    [–]magnora7[S] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    Yeah that block feature is near the top of our todo list, we also think it's a great idea, but there are programming hurdles that have to be overcome. If anyone wants to help develop such a feature, we'd definitely bring it in to the saidit site code. Here's the open source if anyone is feeling ambitious: https://github.com/libertysoft3/saidit

    [–]LarrySwinger2 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    It'd be nice to see a technical solution to this that won't disrupt authentic posting. Until then, I think the best solution is to ridicule them, so we show newbies what we're about and what we aren't about.

    [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    My man: Let's rain some hell on their sorry asses. We outnumber them 10:1 ! So according to sun tzi attack is justifiable and has good chances.

    We don't even need to leave this site. Purifying should come from the inside, otherwise it is rather obtuse or imposed.

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    he speaks the truth, lol. i'm assuming the crowd you responded to and moved to fix the thing that wasnt broken was the sjw libtard concern trolls from reddit not likin what they saw from various subs here.

    sometimes its bad to bend over to the crowd that shouts the loudest, lol. which just happens to be the clownworld libtard types.

    [–]ABlueSkilttle 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Unfortunately in my experience without a concerted effort and ability to block out the extremists, they absolutely will drive everybody else away. There needs to be a block and mute feature.

    [–]magnora7[S] 63 insightful - 3 fun63 insightful - 2 fun64 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

    Attack is still ongoing, we've blocked 7.34 million fraudulent connection attempts so far. That's about 10x our previous record for a single attack... holy moly. Still not taking our servers down though, and we don't even our defenses turned up all the way! A lot of wasted resources on their part

    [–][deleted] 77 insightful - 6 fun77 insightful - 5 fun78 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

    Slightly conspiratorial, but last time reddit had a ban wave, they did this to voat when everyone migrated and it killed any attempt to make voat viable. This is deliberate to keep other social media from taking root.

    [–]Shadow_Death 29 insightful - 5 fun29 insightful - 4 fun30 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

    I remember that happening to Voat. It doesn't surprise me that it's happening here. When you look over at Reddit that place is slowly dying. Today was the first day in weeks that I woke up to new shit on the front page. They keep getting more and more extreme with their rules and they keep running people off. I honestly feel like what they're doing is running off the older redditors. When you think about it everything they're pushing on reddit is the shit they've been pushing since this latest generation. Everyone gets a trophy, free healthcare, free college, socialism, socialism, socialism. I've noticed over the years that reddit has become more socialist over the years, to the point where they took Tencent money and now delete just about all anti-China posts. Reddit should change its logo to the Red Star.

    [–][deleted] 39 insightful - 3 fun39 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    They want to indoctrinate children and teenagers into their trans cult, and become the next P0rnhub. I know, I sound like a lunatic, but the more I read about the whole phenomenon the more I think there's truth to it.

    [–]Jesus 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Socialism? Reddit is literally neoliberalism. Why hasn't /r/neocon been banned there. It's all about keeping the establishment as it is.

    [–]spinell 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This is serious. Stay strong.

    [–]Honestanonymous 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah! Go magnora7 go!

    [–]PencilPusher55 51 insightful - 3 fun51 insightful - 2 fun52 insightful - 3 fun -  (32 children)

    This attack, whatever it is that despises our views so much is the most cancerous, relentless, and evil piece of shit ideology to ever plague the earth.

    No, this is not code for something antisemitic, it's just that fact that if people that think like us are on facebook. REMOVED. Instagram. REMOVED. Youtube. REMOVED. Twitter. REMOVED.

    So what do we do? Move to a new place where we aren't censored and can freely express our opinions like people on the other side of the isle have. Good, are you happy? You're free to speak without our "bigoted" interjections and posts..... BUT WHAT HAPPENS?

    They come and attack our platforms! It's not enough to purge us from their platforms, they want complete and total annihilation of us as a whole.

    Why is it? Fear that they'll lose another election? Pure hatred? I just don't understand it.

    [–]yishengqingwa666 78 insightful - 3 fun78 insightful - 2 fun79 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    Guessing it's outraged TIMs trying to get at the women who came here after they banned all our radfem and gender critical subs.

    http://pfox.org/Shame-Rage.pdf

    [–]magnora7[S] 53 insightful - 3 fun53 insightful - 2 fun54 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Could very well be, I do know this attack was 50x worse than any DDOS attack we've had before, according to the numbers. So it would fit with the idea of it being related to the new crowd that just arrived, as it's an unusual attack

    [–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Aaaah. Was wondering about that.

    [–]jet199 31 insightful - 8 fun31 insightful - 7 fun32 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

    Yep, they don't call them programming socks for no reason.

    [–]magnora7[S] 44 insightful - 3 fun44 insightful - 2 fun45 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    There's a lot of different motives.

    China gov't doesn't want us talking openly about it. US gov't doesn't want us talking about them either. Nor does Shareblue, nor does Cambridge Analytica. Neither does Israel's government. Neither do a lot of mods on reddit want people talking about what they're doing. I could go on. There are big-time players and small-time players. There are so many shady organizations and ideologies that hate it when people are able to call out their wrongdoing in an open forum, so they will destroy that forum.

    Who knows which person or group in particular was responsible for tonight's attacks. They're too cowardly to say, they just want us taken down.

    It's all about narrative control, in the end. This is the censorship we have to defend against.

    [–]bobbobbybob 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    cockroaches fear the light.

    [–]Nona_Biba 39 insightful - 4 fun39 insightful - 3 fun40 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

    I bet you a dollar the dipshits at against hate subreddits finally went into withdrawal and had to silence gendercritical and lgbdropthet again. Apparently they resorted to posting child porn on one of the now- banned subreddits before the latest ban wave. And one of the old GC mods has screencaps of the modlog before gc got banned-someone was reporting literally everything as "child porn" receipts. Now whether that means there actually WAS cp posted or if they were fraudently reporting im not sure.

    [–]magnora7[S] 31 insightful - 4 fun31 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah they've tried similar crap here, this is a big part of why we have a no porn rule

    [–]Raavan 24 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Ahaha it's like the dog paradox or whatever it is called: the dog chases so many cars but he wouldn't know what to do with them once he actually caught one.

    the cup which AHS has chosen to fill has no bottom. You get rid of all dissenting opinions on reddit. Yay, not a single person on the website who isn't a communist islamic transgender atheist homosexual queer furry RGB CMYK community member. Now what? Has life changed? No. Bardfinn is still a loser who lives in a small shack in texas policing the internet when they should be spending time with their son. Rest of the AHS mods will celebrate but everyone's lives are unchanged - even people banned from reddit will have, by now, found the n number of websites to waste their time on.

    So, the chase continues. they will still chase the cars, these rabid dogs.

    [–]1donteven 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    [–][deleted] 37 insightful - 3 fun37 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

    Does that explain all of the pro-censorship shills on the front page today/recently?

    [–]magnora7[S] 29 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    I think some of it's organic, but yes I think that's party why that whole "drama" (both sides of it) is being intentionally manifested

    [–]Chipit 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Next step is to post ugly shit and then report you to cloudflare for TOS violations. You can bet on it. I hope the backup hosting plan is worked out.

    [–]magnora7[S] 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah we did all that over a year ago already, that's old news

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I think it does between the two of us

    [–]uwubunny 33 insightful - 8 fun33 insightful - 7 fun34 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

    I'd bet this is because you're now the internet's major venue for the most controversial and detested political view in the history of the human race:

    Women exist.

    [–]TokLwdSaNthg 33 insightful - 7 fun33 insightful - 6 fun34 insightful - 7 fun -  (23 children)

    "You've got a real nice place here. It'd be a real shame if anything were to ... happen to it. If you know what I mean"

    [–]magnora7[S] 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

    I literally get DMs that are almost exactly this on a weekly basis. Sometimes even from mods on saidit. Not even joking. It gets real old.

    [–]TokLwdSaNthg 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

    Sorry for any PTSD the joke may have caused - you’re doing gods work. The “Protection Racket” is real but it’s not clear (to me) who and what they want. ruqqus was also having trouble around the same time

    [–]magnora7[S] 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    No worries, it's just part of the job.

    Yes these same things are affecting ruqqus and notabug and many others. It's gotten to the point where if you try to start a forum (especially a modern reddit-style one), this style of cultural attack just part of the territory. It didn't used to be like this 15 years ago, maybe even it wasn't like this 5 years ago, but it is now.

    Alternative forums need to learn from each other, to build the best defenses against these cultural attacks, because this problem is becoming more and more of a "thing", much like DDOS attacks. On average Saidit gets DDOS attacked literally 9 days out of 10, so the fact they'd be doing cultural attacks around the clock would also be unsurprising.

    It could be any number of people or organizations doing this. It's very hard to tell. That's part of what makes the attacks so hard to stop. They're all just normal users until they show their true colors

    [–]bobbobbybob 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Seemed to pick up around the time the saudis built their internet ops division, imo. about 2016

    [–]magnora7[S] 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Interesting. I've had run-ins with JIDF before. And I've had run-ins with ShareBlue and Cambridge Analytica as well. Didn't know the saudis had a branch too. I guess everyone will soon, every country and every corporation. It'll be the new "native advertising" to hijack forums and sway minds by creating false consensus. What a future to look forward to /s

    [–]Exconduckducktor 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I wish I wasn't alone in my friend circle in being aware of this madness

    [–]whistlepig 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It was definitely happening 5 years ago... but its definitely worse and they've gotten much better at it.

    [–]magnora7[S] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah I guess 5 years ago I wasn't an admin or mod, and was only seeing it from the user perspective still, which makes it not seem as bad.

    I miss that 1998 internet when it was just people talking to people, and these forum-destroying tactics didn't really exist.

    [–]whistlepig 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    You should make posts out of them. That would be entertaining. ;]

    Maybe make a sub for them.

    [–]magnora7[S] 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

    Ugh I don't want to give the attackers one more bit of attention, they thrive on that, so it'd only be inviting more attacks, imo. I think that's why most admins don't speak out about this stuff, because even just talking about it often causes more attacks.

    [–]brbmodule 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    i beg to differ. the attacks happen, putting up a banner that said something along the line "currently under fire from geo region X" doesn't give more attention to them. you just point out an obvious fact. furthermore it looks like saidit can fend of the brunt of it, the countermeasures are working. so you're ahead of that game keep doing that.

    [–]Vigte 32 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

    I have no idea how you do it Magnora (and the whole team!), you're (all) amazing.

    [–]magnora7[S] 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Cheers

    [–]magnora7[S] 32 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    Our connection counts log per hour looks like this:

    7pm: 241,253 connections (normal traffic)

    8pm: 227,166 connections

    9pm: 3,918,069 connections

    10pm: 11,287,220 connections

    Seems like someone has a botnet at their disposal or something, there's no way one computer can generate so many requests I don't think

    edit: 11pm: 6,990,516 connections

    12am: 1,196,567 connections

    So maybe getting back to normal...

    edit2: I think it's done, we had a total of 23 million connection attempts in excess of normal (compared to 1 million normal connections over this same period). So they 23x'd our traffic for the duration of the attack, basically. But it wasn't evenly spread across time, so at the peak it was probably around 200x our normal traffic rate. D3rr and I learned a new spot to improve so our defenses only got better. Have a good night everyone!

    [–]wicklesnarf 12 insightful - 17 fun12 insightful - 16 fun13 insightful - 17 fun -  (0 children)

    I think about a million of those connection attempts were me. It just kept giving me endless bicycle captchas and wouldn't let me in. I thought maybe I was banished forever

    [–]Ossidiana 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Angry trancels, maybe?

    [–]Chipit 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Yeah, the real attacks start now.

    We just had someone pretending to be Iranian. It was an obvious troll from an enraged leftist. They can't win arguments, so the next course is false flags. They do it all the time, pretending to be what they're not, in order to set things to rights inside their own minds. Losing an argument with an opponent who has really good reasons is mentally painful.

    [–]Stand 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Probably the fucking TRAs

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Their manifesto literally promotes hacking.

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      [–]hennaojichan 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

      Barbarians at the gates: judging from the way voting is going, there seem to be at least a hundred or more bots and or humanoids fighting us out there.

      [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      I'd be more surprised if there weren't a hundred bots lurking around here

      [–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Off topic, but guess who this person grew up to be-- one of our "favorite supermods".

      https://archive.fo/wlYu4

      Coventry boy arrested over Bullring 'cyber attack' threat POLICE raided a Coventry home and arrested a 15-year-old boy over claims he blackmailed the Bullring shopping centre by threatening to crash its website.

      BySam DimmerDigital Development Editor 08:25, 14 FEB 2013UPDATED16:58, 25 APR 2013

      POLICE raided a Coventry home and arrested a 15-year-old boy over claims he blackmailed the Bullring shopping centre by threatening to crash its website. Officers swooped on a home in the Stoke area of the city where they broke down the door before arresting the teenager. He has since been bailed until May on suspicion of blackmailing a corporation. The boy is accused of threatening to carry out a cyber-attack on the Bullring shopping centre, in Birmingham. The charges stem from a protest held by internet activists Anonymous at the venue in January. The 15-year-old alleges he was attacked by security guards. In retaliation, he is said to have posted a video on YouTube threatening to crash the shopping centre’s website – unless he got an apology. In the video it is alleged the teenager, who has a mild attention deficit disorder, says he will use a “d-dosing” attack – a way of overloading the site with information so it crashes. But the teenager’s family say he has not got the expertise to carry out such a sophisticated attack. And the boy’s mother says storming the home was an ‘‘overreaction”. The woman, in her 40s, who is also a member of Anonymous, said she would have happily opened the door given the chance. She said: “It was beyond belief. There were so many officers in the house – they were everywhere and it was horrible. “They damaged the door. We managed to sort it but it’s not really what you want to spend your time doing.” A spokesman for West Midlands Police said the number of officers on the raid was the minimum required. He said: “The arrest followed a series of threats against an organisation which at the time were treated as credible. “As is usual with an investigation involving such a serious allegation, the arrest and searches were carried out at the same time. “This involved up to seven officers: two arresting officers, one high tech officer to assist with computer evidence, the officer in charge of the investigation and search officers. “Again, as is usual with an investigation of this serious nature, crucial evidence can be destroyed when rapid entry techniques are not used.”  coventrytelegraph

      [–]uwubunny 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Ah, it's our old friend Aimee "Sure my dad's a pedophile torturer, and my husband's an admitted pedophile, but I'm OK to moderate kiddy fora" C

      [–]Honestanonymous 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Probably just reddit trying to squash the upcomers

      [–]Alliepp 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Trans activists are freaking out over this site. I wouldn't be shocked at all if that community is involved.

      [–]SierraKiloBravo 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

      SHIELDS UP

      [–]hfxB0oyA 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Threaten their business plan of intellectual homogeneity and they gun for you. Great job holding the line lads.

      [–]GST893 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Keep up the good work! If you are being attacked you are doing something right and are making an impact.

      [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      I wouldn’t be shocked if this was an inside job (not necessarily due to foreign entities working on their own). Tons of money is being poured into the trans cult, and they have many IT experts in their ranks. https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2020/01/the-billionaires-behind-the-lgbt-movement

      [–]JerrySpringerSexToy 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      what is a "fraudulent connection attempt" anyways?

      [–]magnora7[S] 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      It means that IP is trying to connect so many times per second that it's obviously not a human trying to view the website, basically. Like 10 to 10,000 times a second

      [–]TokLwdSaNthg 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Maybe the purpose of the attack is less temporary disruption of service but more the shock of discord to members. The blame game begins with accusations of: “those damn (insert preferred scapegoat here) did it” and the fall-out of mistrust ends in a scorched Earth. Divide and Conquer. Asking who benefits from sowing seeds of dissent in a national conversation before an election may show state actors, both foreign and domestic, plus a legion of mercenaries. If the Right vs Left were to look up they might see that the fight is really Up vs Down and all about what pulls the strings.

      [–]Lilith_Fair 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      Magnora7, are you aware that the search function is now not working? If I don't login, I can't access subs.

      Thanks so much BTW for all your work, your calm in face of all these, and your reasoned voice.

      [–]magnora7[S] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      Yeah we disabled search temporarily because of the attacks, to help keep the site up because that's where they were attacking. Thanks for your support!

      [–]motionlessoracle 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Question: Is this costing you extra money in bandwidth or tithes to Cloudflare? If so, let us know how we can help.

      [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      Reddit is doing this. By Reddit, I mean their Chinese masters, TenCent (they invested over 150 million dollars in that dying bullshit website).

      [–]TruthTeller 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

      Maybe it wasn't a DDOS attack. Maybe it was just 1.6 million poor sods running away from reddit trying to get into saidit.

      [–]magnora7[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Lol, more like 23 million. That all tried within a 4 hour period and then instantly stopped, and each IP was doing 100k+ requests. And our number IPs connecting didn't change, only the number of requests, so there were no actual new users.

      So it definitely wasn't new users. But this is something we watch out for, because sometimes heavy sudden traffic can look like a DDOS, it's true.

      [–]suckitreddit 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      The world is totally is fucked up. But stay strong, friends! Free speech matters.

      [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      wow crazy, somebody has power to waste, rofl. explains why i was stuck in a cloudflare loop for a good 20 seconds just now, rofl.

      [–]DimDroog 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I just became a patreon.

      Thank you for your hard work.

      [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Is there any idea who could be doing these constant attacks?

      [–]LarrySwinger2 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      At least it's better than being attacked by literally billions of nodes.

      Who do you think is responsible for these attacks?