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[–]Alienhunter 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

Well we've tried black green lantern. Woman green lantern. And gay green lantern. What's next?

How about disabled green lantern!

Brilliant, gay disabled black lesbian green lantern will be the best thing since homeless batman.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Well we've tried black green lantern. Woman green lantern. And gay green lantern. What's next?

Grey Lantern.
The lantern is still green, but it identifies as grey.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What if he identifies as a flashlight instead of a lantern. Lanterns seem very 18th century much like slavery.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What if he identifies as a flashlight instead of a lantern.

Flashlight? You mean Fleshlight, right?

I agree. He identifies as the grey Fleshlight.

[–]at_finn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Make that, disabled lesbian non-binary transwoman of color.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

John Stewart (black green lantern) was actually pretty cool though. It was a good way to reset the power creep that Hal Jordan had been getting.

[–]LordoftheFlies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

John Stewart was also introduced well before any of the IdPol bullshit that currently infests the industry, so he's actually a developed character and not a one-dimensional stereotype, author mouthpiece, or pandering token.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Red, Green Lantern you colorphobe.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Christmas Lantern.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They need better queer writers.

People demand top notch queer entertainment.

[–]IkeConn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Even queers don't pay to see queer movies. Get over it.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Why are these publishers such heterophobes?

[–]tyranicaloverlord 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I hate the term homophobe because it has an improper definition. Just like the term transphobe.

No, I am not afraid of you, live your life, but don't involve me in your bullshit.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

No, I am not afraid of you, live your life, but don't involve me in your bullshit.

If you don't want to be involved in gay sex, just say "no, thank you", in the event that someone offers you some.

If you don't like homosexual relationships being depicted in literature, (more than heterosexual ones) then you are afraid.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Dislike is not akin to fear. That's a fucking retarded notion, and you and the English language needs to have a long sit down together.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

If dislike of gay sex is all you feel, you just need to say "no, thank you" about half a dozen times in your life, unless you're hanging out in too many gay bars.

You don't need to get stressed about people "involving" you in "their bullshit".

[–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

A troon insisting on being called a woman is them involving me in their bullshit. It is not fear if I dislike it.

As for you, quit your bullshit.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

A troon insisting on being called a woman is them involving me in their bullshit.

Oh, you thought green lantern is about transexuality, and you claim to be transphobic, not homophobic?

It is not fear if I dislike it.

There's no rational reason to dislike it. You're displacing your fear onto them.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Quit your bullshit.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If you genuinely believe that that's bullshit, it would be more effective to explain the rationality behind your "dislike".

This response you have given better fits that irrational fear is the basis.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Secondly, I don't have to rationally explain a dislike. If I don't like onions, I dislike onions, there needs to be no rationality to it.

Therefore you are literally making shit up, you say the words hoping them to be true, but they are not.

Quit your bullshit.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Secondly, I don't have to rationally explain a dislike. If I don't like onions, I dislike onions, there needs to be no rationality to it.

In the case of onions, you simply have to not eat them. Similar to how to avoid gay sex, you just have to politely turn it down.

On the other hand you say "A troon insisting on being called a woman is them involving me in their bullshit", but you don't claim that having to call an onion "vegetable", is involving you in the onion bullshit, so your dislike of onions is not analogous.

Therefore you are attempting to create a false argument by false analogy. You say the words, pretending that they are true, but they are not.

Quit your bullshit.

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Is this the guy who put out that video telling everyone to buy the comic to fight bigots and that there were so many more of "Us than there are of them"?

[–]RR_2023[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know. I remember a similar type of attitude. I think it was for a fag movie, though. "Bros"?

[–]NastyWetSmear 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Ohhh, I remember that movie! We were evil for not watching it. Man, I'm so evil I didn't even pirate it. :(

[–]Wanderingthehalls 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I did pirate it. And a major part of the plot was the love interest of the main character learning he was a bad person because he didn't immerse himself in queer culture. He had a job and interests that were not specifically queer and he had to change that and dedicate himself to queerness. The main character's whole personality was being queer and his job was running a museum where they presented bullshit about people in the past who may or may not have been queer, as absolute fact.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hot damn... That's some heavy handed propaganda.

[–]Ferretman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't mess with Green Lantern.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Alan Scott, not Hal Jordan. Alan Scott used to be married to a woman and had two kids with her. Now he is gay and the wife and kids are gone.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Alan Scott always seemed pretty gay though. LOOK AT THAT COSTUME!

I'm pretty sure that wife was just a beard forced upon him by 1950s morality and values. :P

[–]hfxB0oyA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Brown Lantern.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They already have one since 2012. Simon Baz

He kinda sucks.

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wasn't talking about skin colour. ;D

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ach, I can't believe this didn't come to me until now:

Queen Lantern

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not a comic book guy, but I've never, ever cared about the orientation of a superhero. Kinda flies in the face of the purpose of comic books, no? A distraction from your mundane life?

[–]LordoftheFlies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Superheroes are supposed to be epic characters in (mostly) epic stories, the modern analogues to legends like Beowulf or Gilgamesh. You can (and should) do stories that are lighter, comedic, or just "daily life" stuff because it serves to both refresh the palate (so to speak) after the previous big arc and makes the next big arc something readers care about because it disrupts the heroes' attempt at living "normally." And sure, you can incorporate real-world events into the stories too.

But at the end of the day, it has to be remembered that this is supposed to be fiction, not a newspaper presenting the headlines in drawn form. So constantly injecting reality eventually makes the material worthless because it's just as bad, depressing, and all-around toxic as the shit we're trying to get a break from by reading it in the first place.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's really frustrating is that it's nor really to draw any attention to social justice issues, it's pandering to a new base. Just like Bud Light, corporations love to shit on their solid base in order to satisfy DEI policies and attract the "right" crowd. I honestly hope they run the superhero blockbuster into the dirt. I don't really find it compelling, though I'll admit some of the Marvel heyday stuff was pretty fun.

[–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

some writers apparently are as woke bigoted when they face pushback from those who see an agenda being pushed.

a good writer would come up with their own new character instead of hijacking an old one

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But it looks like the scribe’s efforts fell on deaf ears as his Alan Scott, Green Lantern No. 1 has landed with a thud with few sales.

Not exactly. It's cracked the top 100 this month, coming in at #80. It's probably going beat 20,000 sales.

https://www.comicbookrevolution.com/october-2023-single-issue-comic-book-sales-rankings/#franchises

It's respectable enough.

[–]Goingoutforawalk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They can't understand that there aren't a large number of people interested in their sexuality. Just that concept seems foreign and hateful to them alone.