Legal Rights / PoliticsThe sky is falling and the TW+ chickens are coming home to roost

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[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

These histrionics are exactly why people are going to eventually stop taking the TQ+ seriously. It's like how, in the US, the D.A.R.E. (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) program made more kids do drugs, having exactly the opposite effect as intended. D.A.R.E. portrayed marijuana as a "gateway drug" and basically tried to scare kids into thinking that having one hit of weed would kill them. Once kids eventually did try weed and found out, hey, it's fine, they would think to themselves, "Okay, so D.A.R.E. fucking lied to me; if weed isn't as bad as they said, maybe heroine isn't either."

It's the same fucking thing. "Oh, no, the BBC has decided to stop kissing our asses; we're terrified! People are going to start murdering us with no repercussions!!!"

Then that doesn't happen, and the sane people think, "Oh, so they're just blowing every little thing out of proportion." So if there are any serious issues that the TQ+ community is facing, everyone's going to start thinking, "Oh, fuck off you whiny crybabies."

I give it 10 years tops before people just start blatantly ignoring anything they say, and it'll be their own damn fault if they can't manage to get whatever rights they think they don't have.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 18 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

D.A.R.E. also wrongly gave kids the impression that everybody but them was doing drugs, leading to drug FOMO. Stupid.

Where I lived we did W.H.O. ("We Help Ourselves") in which we were accidentally given long detailed lessons on how to date rape, how to bully without being caught, the names and street names of various exotic drugs, and the basic ingredients of crystal meth. Great job, Board of Education.

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

True - I barely remember doing the D.A.R.E. program; I'm pretty sure I went through it once in elementary school (seriously?) and then again in like seventh grade, but I do remember that it was extremely lame and kind of made drugs look cool by comparison. Granted, I never did any drugs until I was well out of school (except for smoking cigarettes and sneaking liquor every now and again in high school), but it certainly wasn't D.A.R.E. that stopped me.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 11 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

I'm pretty sure I went through it once in elementary school (seriously?)

Yeah, I remember being taught about PCP in elementary school by one of these programs. I specifically remember I got a quiz question wrong because I mixed it up with cocaine and thought that was Angel Dust. I had to have been in fourth grade. Fucking ridiculous.

except for smoking cigarettes and sneaking liquor every now and again in high school

We used to put Everclear in empty Ozarka bottles. 🤮 We help ourselves, lol!

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

We used to put Everclear in empty Ozarka bottles

My favorite was raiding my friend's dad's liquor cabinet and finding a bottle of gin in the back that we thought he wouldn't miss, and sneaking out to go meet up with some people, and the only thing they had to mix it with was flat diet cola. Whatever worked! My other drink of choice around that time was whiskey and grape juice lol

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

whiskey and grape juice lol

I beg your pardon

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My other drink of choice around that time was whiskey and grape juice lol

I can't imagine that not tasting like vomit. Kids have iron stomachs.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Then that doesn't happen, and the sane people think, "Oh, so they're just blowing every little thing out of proportion." So if there are any serious issues that the TQ+ community is facing, everyone's going to start thinking, "Oh, fuck off you whiny crybabies."

They're abusing the goodwill given to them(mostly acquired through Gay activism) by crying wolf too many times.

I give it 10 years tops before people just start blatantly ignoring anything they say, and it'll be their own damn fault if they can't manage to get whatever rights they think they don't have.

While this sounds just, I think they long foresaw this eventuality and been entangling themselves with the LGB for years so people will have a very difficult time shaking the association of gender identity/ideology from sexual orientation in their heads if the situation ever goes sour for them. And they can use this association to pressure the community for support if they really started needing it. Kinda a 'we're all in this together' type of social coercion. Actually, they already do it now even when they don't need to, so they are not really keeping their powder dry and it may cost them.

The best case scenario is the LGB side of the community loses patience with them and drops them long before the mainstream does.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More reason to drop the T asap!!! They are destroying us :(

LGB gotta get ahead of the curve...

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

"The best case scenario is the LGB side of the community loses patience with them and drops them long before the mainstream does" I think we're at the point where more of us have than haven't, yet the mainstream still continues to lump us all together, when the issue is always the TQ. I'm not in the UK but I doubt it's the LGB folks who are having a meltdown over this, yet always reported "LGBTQ". We're at the point where an individual is rarely recognized in the media as "a lesbian", "a gay man" it's "a LGBTQ person". "Normies" think LGBT(etc. etc) is just "one big happy family". Meanwhile how many of us same sex attracted folks even feel remotely welcome muchless represented in "the community" these days?

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We're at the point where an individual is rarely recognized in the media as "a lesbian", "a gay man" it's "a LGBTQ person".

Yeah, I always thought it odd when someone says they are an LGBTQ person. Just say what you are; It's not that hard. Maybe they just don't want people to know..

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Maybe they just don't want people to know...they're straight

FTFY

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Indeed. The whole point here is a giant pile-on of narcissistic toddlers in adult bodies looking for the most victim-y street cred they can find to cloak themselves with while they bully people. That's it. "LGBTQWTF" is their current weapon of choice because it gets so much traction. When that stops working, they will try something else, either individually or otherwise, because it's about being a victim in the end.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I'm honestly wondering whether they'll be able to pull off transageism.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In what sense? Because all they're doing now is being textbook for NPD. That inherently involves stunted emotional growth, i.e. acting like a toddler while your body continues to mature into adulthood without you. But that isn't trans-anything, it's pathology.

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some individuals may not but like everything else pushed with the media on this subject--they want us all lumped together.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and it'll be their own damn fault

Yes. Because professional victims eventually become the same as the boy who cried wolf. And they don't seem to see that one coming. Self-sabotage is also a helluva drug.

[–]our_team_is_winning 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I give it 10 years tops before people just start blatantly ignoring anything they say

Another TEN YEARS of TQ shit? I can't take another ten MINUTES.

Love how the creep says the LGBTQ5RX9+& community, but ESPECIALLY all the non-sense that follows the LGB, because NONE of them are part of LGB. How has that not been obvious all along?

All this time they have implied that LGB is a "kink" -- it's just our way of "queering" the system. They think LGB are just LARPers like they are.

LGB: green checkmark

TQ+: big red X