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[–]LGB123 33 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Except when you browse their FemaleToMale subreddit forums and their experiences with bisexuals, theyre 100% heterosexual women in regards to their psyche and how they engage in relationships + theyre homophobic.

Their entire being is: "im the princess and it's your job to be my man" except they translate that to: "im a cute bottom twink gay boy UWU. And by the way, im a smol bean cutie wootie patootie and that's what a gay boy is and you're my big strong man! and why am i entitled to this? Because i'm your cutie pie and you're such a big strong man and you cant possibly resist my twinky winky body! teheheheh!"

yeah...gee, totally like a gay guy. They sure do experience gay dynamics.

Their only proximity to the gay world is from broken gay 13-16 year old boys who are less than 3 seconds on the verge of "identifying as a straight woman" and becoming trans themselves. And they use these "smol bean twinky winky" 15 year old "fem boys" as a template to say "see! im just like a gay man!" when these are the same broken gay kids who say "see! im just like a straight girl!". If your ability to imitate gay relationships is limited to gay boys with psychotic amounts of internalized hatred and homophobia, then you know nothing about gay relationships.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They can't possibly understand what it is like to be a gay man and have that experience as a child and adolescent. The reclaiming of a masculinity that was expected from the beginning and then denied at a later point (but still early, developmentally speaking) is fundamental to the gay male experience. Even my career-military colonel friend experienced it, even though his career would be the epitome of what is considered masculinity (in many ways the trauma was deeper and more pervasive to his psyche).

It's offensive to even suggest that they know anything about the gay male experience from the inside.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I’m masculine now, but I used to be somewhat effeminate (or at least not as masculine as I used to be) when I was a teenager while I was struggling with my orientation. It was after realising that I was gay and accepting it that I became more masculine. I can’t speak for other gay men who have been through what I’ve been through, but when I was a teenager, I was terrified of masculinity because I was attracted to it and I didn’t want to be attracted to it until I learned to accept that I was attracted to it. Maybe that’s also what your military friend went through.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's interesting. I had the same observation of my ex's brother. He was very 'soft' as a teen. When he came out at 18, he really doubled down on the limp-wristed gay stereotype for a while, and we all thought he was just expressing his 'authentic self'. Now in his late 20s, he looks like a redneck.

I wish young people struggling with their identity and sexuality would realize that the 'identity' stuff is in fact very fluid, and very much affected by external influences, and not 'innate'.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being masculine or feminine is about personality - it’s got nothing to do with sexual orientation. I was never camp, nor was I ever interested in stereotypical camp things like drag queens, musicals or fashion, I was nowhere near as masculine ten years ago as I am now. And I’m more masculine now simply because I’m more confident and I don’t give as much of a shit what others think of me being gay as I used to.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's certainly what I went through. My military friend had to deal with suppressing his homosexuality over a long period of time and being terrified that he would be found out and his career ended. Deeply scarring experience for him.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m glad you’re military friend is doing better now. By the way, I find military guys hot.

[–][deleted] 29 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Internalized misogyny and fetishization of gay men. That's all I see here.

[–][deleted] 25 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm a cis woman

STOP IT RIGHT THERE. Straight women don't have the right to dictate my sexual orientation or tell me MY HOMOSEXUAL experience is bIgOtEd against their degenerate friends. Straight people pushing woke homophobia need to stop.

[–]fuck_reddit 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I assure you, none of you are attracted to men “in a gay way.”

[–]hufflepuff-poet 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A 👏🏾 female 👏🏾 cannot 👏🏾 be 👏🏾 attracted 👏🏾 to 👏🏾 males 👏🏾 in 👏🏾 a 👏🏾 gay 👏🏾 way👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.

Gay = homosexual 🤷🏾‍♀️ NOT heterosexual 🙅🏾‍♀️

[–]Cass 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I only want to point out that her profile illustration is really bad. The coloring is amateurish and you can tell she never bothered to study any anatomy to get the proportions right. Yet she is an "aspiring illustrator"

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Please buy her art and donate to her phalloplasty fund

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

I imagine "in a gay way" would be something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLdKU4JCYqg

[–]boypower 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The profile picture is from Dragon Age. Why are Dragon Age fans such horrid shits, ugh.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The SWJs and TRAs took over the scene both inside Bioware studios and outside it in the DA franchise's community after DA2. Hence why DA: Inquisition was unusually "woke" compared to previous entries.

EG, one of the characters in Inquisition, Iron Bull, a Qunari(one of the most bigoted and rude races in all of Thedas), telling the party in one scene to not be racially "insensitive" towards a group of NPCs. Among a few other scenes that raise an eyebrow when you're familiar with the franchise's lore and how 🤔 Inquisition tends to deviate from it.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The whole everyone is equal under the Qun thing got weird real fast considering the Qunari had very strict gender roles up until Inquisition. In DA:O Sten is completely surprised if the Warden is a woman because women aren't allowed to be warriors or leaders. Women got to be priestesses and glorified whores. Then Inquisition suddenly tried to make the Qun seem woke, when it's really religious extremists that only really attracted converts from the elves because the elves were basically slaves. Pretty sure at one point Iron Bull even just says the Qun doesn't care what sex someone is, which is just complete bullshit with how it was previously presented in the story.

Also Sera being the lesbian love interest annoyed me.

[–]boypower 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean with Iron Bull you can never really be sure. His whole thing is that he is a liar and a spy.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do they also love to eat meat in a vegan way? Do they accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior in a Muslim way? Are they socialists in a capitalist way? LOL probably yes on the last one.

But in all seriousness this mindset really harmed me and kept me from accepting my homosexuality. I didn’t think I was attracted to women in a gay way, so how could I be gay? Surely it didn’t make me gay.

Expect it did. Because I am female and am solely attracted to other women. I thought surely if I was gay there would be some independent internal feeling associated with that. Except there isn’t. It’s the sole fact that I’m female and everyone I’m attracted to is female that makes me gay. There’s nothing about the way that I experience that attraction that makes it gay. Put a different way, it’s the confluence of 4 facts:

(1) I’m female as a factual matter, not a matter of identity.

(2) I’m attracted to other females.

(3) I’ve never been attracted to any males.

(4) This pattern has always been true for me.

How I feel about any of the above makes no difference. How I identify makes no difference. And sexual attraction is scientifically discernible. It’s a reaction of your body and mind. Not some unfalsifiable, imperceptible, esoteric concept or disembodied feeling. It’s literally based in the body.

[–]schomee 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is how AGP/AAP heterosexuals harm gays and lesbians. Can you imagine AGP flooding the internet and lesbian spaces and creating a culture that "teaches" lesbians how it feels like to be attracted to women? It would be so alien and weird that lesbians will either be convinced theyre not lesbians or that they are but theyre somehow straight men trapped in women's bodies and will end up transitioning because they fit the definition of a man better.

Gays and Lesbians are basically aliens to these people. Theyre just straight fetishists, fine. Hate groups exist and it's not like gays/lesbians have an obsession with going after them. But the problem with these people is theyre obsessed with us. They want to teach us what it's like to be gay/lesbian and inform us and we already know what they think and it's so broken and wrong. They dont want to be "accepted". They want us to redefine and destroy ourselves to the point where we erase our homosexuality and gender so that their differences are never brought up.

It's like asking black people to remove their race so we can pretend racism doesnt exist, or women to remove their sex and now gays/lesbians to remove their homosexuality to get along with everyone else. It doesnt work. It not only increases the homophobia, it also destroys the community they want access to. And they only want access to it because it's now slightly empowering and positive but when they trash it and tear it apart, magically all of them will disappear and leave us to pick up the pieces because they no longer fetishize a community they ruined that it's no longer considered attractive.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can you imagine AGP flooding the internet and lesbian spaces and creating a culture that "teaches" lesbians how it feels like to be attracted to women?

This is “lesbian Reddit” in a nutshell. They respond to questions asked by unassuming young lesbian, bisexual, and questioning women all the time without disclosing the fact that they’re male. No one calls them out for it anymore because anyone who is inclined to is already banned or is banned within nanoseconds.

[–]SapphicFox 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is what really pisses me off with the modern day trans movement, they take pre-defined words and descriptors, redefine them then play the victim when the majority of people don't use their 'new language'. Its always other people fault, its neve them having ridiculous, insulting demands. They're the 'victim' because others 'perceive' them as a girl/ boy rather than what they 'identify' as. Newsflash, people calling you by your chosen pronouns or gender opposite to your biological sex is nothing more than a social courtesy. It does not shift material reality. You will always be the sex you were born as underneath all the drugs, surgery and fantasy cosplay and that is important to the majority of us, LGB or straight, when we pick a partner for romantic and sexual purposes or just feeling safe in what is meant to be a sex segregated space, especially women. People not seeing you as you wish to be seen in your head is not a them problem, its distinctly a you problem.