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[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Her comments on another post:

I was introduced to yaoi at a young age and obsessing with reading/writing it for nearly a decade helped me understand that I’m a trans gay guy too.. of course fujoshis are gross fetishizing people and the community is rotten to the core with many problems (don’t even get me started on the dehumanization of omegaverse mlm) but yaoi in itself is just a genre with some pretty good content on a side, and junk on the other. Like every other genre. It’s a big part of what my journey to be even fair and I feel a bit invalidated to read this ;-; no offense. As though I’m pretending to be gay transmasc just to project that yaoi shit or whatever. (I also 100% agree with OP on bottoming transmasc etc fetishizing. It’s everywhere and it’s gross!) Edit: I didn’t mean you make me feel invalidated, that part was aimed towards the person who said women shouldn’t read yaoi! I couldn’t access their comment. Sorry for the confusion!!

[–]chandra 21 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

I was introduced to yaoi at a young age and obsessing with reading/writing it for nearly a decade helped me understand that I’m a trans gay guy too

Why do these girls not realise that yaoi is written by women, for women? You can't learn anything about gay men from reading yaoi, it's all women's fantasies about something they can never really understand. If you, a woman, relate to the characters in yaoi, that means the yaoi is fulfilling it's intended purpose for you as a woman. You aren't relating to gay men, you're relating to the fantasies of other women.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why? Because they're no different from how straight men fetishize lesbians. That's what yaoi is at its core. A woman's fetishized interpretation of gay men made to appeal to herself and other women.

Telling them that yaoi isn't a realisitic portrayal whatsoever of actual gay men breaks the illusion and their perceived idealizations of what being a gay man is and that makes them very mad lol.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. But they get sooooo mad when you say this lol.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I believe this was a huge puzzle piece that was missing from Abigail Shrier’s book because it may very well be that the parents don’t know about this component.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is the main reason outside of school and IMs, i don't think children should ever be on the internet. There's too too much nonsense online everywhere you look(especially these days) and these kids, as we've all seen by now, have no idea how to handle or absorb any of it without then basing their entire identity and self image off of.

Then they grow up into delusional self centered whackjob adults who can't do anything for themselves, beyond guiltrip/gaslighting others while begging for handouts on go fund me since no one obviously wants to hire them nor can any of them hold jobs anyways.

Mark my words, all this nonsense with the TQ+ communities will end up in documentaries 20 years from now, just like the hikkikomori phenomenon in Japan currently is.

[–]usehername 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the main reason outside of school and IMs, i don't think children should ever be on the internet.

Agreed. I was allowed unrestricted access to the internet and I was exposed to extreme porn, violence, and pedophiles. Thankfully, I'm still functional, but the same can't be said for a lot of these kids. I'm not planning on having kids, but if I do end up adopting, I'll be heavily restricting their access to a few approved sites only.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe it. Sadly so many institutions are capitalizing on the dysfunctionalities of these people. Just look at GoFundMe promoting fundraising drives by able bodied adults whining about being kicked out of their parents' homes.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Completely agree. But, in her defense, it seems like Blanchard started it, with the assumption that "women can't have paraphilias, only men can" (some benevolent sexism there? "women are too pure for that"?).

I wonder how one might be able to get this knowledge more widespread. Seems like research studies might be a great start, but it is hard to do that when not only a) there is mass censorship on the (already-controversial) topic of sex research, and b) the few people brave enough to stand up to the masses don't seem interested in taking a look.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's nearly impossible to find any info on AAP, other than their fetish content. I'm guessing these women/girls are just more private about it. Though it's probable that there are fewer AAPs than AGPs, there are clearly a ton of them. We need a few AAPs to stand up and talk about their experiences like some AGPs have done.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not sure if you've seen this one already, but I want to say GNC Centric is/was AAP and talks about it on her channel?

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh really? I'll check her out. Thanks.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 15 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

"I was introduced to yaoi at a young age and obsessing with reading/writing it for nearly a decade helped me understand that I’m a trans gay guy too. Fujos are gross but I'm not one of them uwu"

Lmao, you just can't make this stuff up.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

of course fujoshis are gross fetishizing people

"I'm not like the other fetishists"

lmao!

[–]Athelhilda2 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I wouldn't necessarily say that she is fetishizing gay relationships via yaoi. It's entirely possible that she genuinely relates to the men in these stories in some fashion and has misunderstood this as being mentally a man herself. Perhaps she has a lack of female role models or the role models she does have leave much to be desired. This is a bit embarrassing, but I too was into yaoi at one time, and still favor ships that involve men. You would expect from this information that I would be either heterosexual or bisexual, but actually I have no interest in men and am likely either asexual or a lesbian.

[–]ItsBondageTime 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Im the same way. The reason i ship male guys in fiction is because i dont like how the female characters are written and i have the mentality that the men i liked didnt deserve them. I dont ship real men with other men or anyone actually

[–]grixit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

T-shirt!

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So she was introduced to pornographic fetish content at a young age and has zero self awareness about how this might’ve negatively affected her self-perception or given her a paraphilia ??This is incredible lmao