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[–]Ambisextrous 32 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

So you’re a porn addict that fetishises gay men. Got it. Gross.

[–]macaron 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It seems like all of them have a porn/hentai problem. :/

[–]julesburm1891 29 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

This entire thread supposes sexuality is something taught (e.g. algebra) instead of something innate. People’s bodies, like every other mammal’s on the planet, respond naturally to the sex to which they’re attracted. Genitals are a sex-based characteristic that people are going to respond to regardless if they’ve seen them already or not.

[–]CJLez 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This entire thread supposes sexuality is something taught (e.g. algebra) instead of something innate.

This is the TRA argument that pisses me off more than any other. There are still so many countries where people are executed or imprisoned for decades for being gay. If it was at all, even slightly possible, for them to teach themselves how to be straight they probably would have done so.

Never mind the fact that if you believe that sexuality is taught you automatically have to believe that conversion therapy can work.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly... it's so out of this world what TRAs are preaching...

[–]zephyranthes 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm willing to concede that an "extremely sheltered" heterosexual person wouldn't know much about the other sex's genitals. The posthumously famous outsider artist Henry Darger drew girls with dicks because he had one himself, never saw a woman's naughty bits, and never had a reason to suspect they're different.

(But there's more to being a woman that a vag that men and other women are attracted to and trans-identified men will never have. And in a civilized society, people who grew up "extremely sheltered" will likely have other issues that'd render them incapable of giving consent before a social worker intervention.)

Gay people, though? We have our own bodies for reference.

[–]a_blue_bird 26 insightful - 4 fun26 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

How are they gonna already have feelings about a body part they've never seen?

Millions of years of evolution.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 25 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I hate when people go OMG BLAH BLAH BLAH while trying to sound intellectual for several paragraphs and end up saying nothing at all.

It was the TRA who insisted that LGB people are sexually attracted to genitals. Now this dimwit is rushing over like Don Quixote at a windmill trying to show how stupid we are for claiming to be sexually attracted to genitals when we are not the ones who claimed this.

Meanwhile we're sitting here like... You are a woman who pretends to be a gay dude. You have bigger problems, bro/sis.

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was the TRA who insisted that LGB people are sexually attracted to genitals. Now this dimwit is rushing over like Don Quixote at a windmill trying to show how stupid we are for claiming to be sexually attracted to genitals when we are not the ones who claimed this.

Yeah, what the heck? I mean it's part of the package, but it's not everything.

[–]LasagnaRossa 24 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I mean, we could also ask ourselves if a gay man would still be gay if he was born and raised in an island where only girls are around.

Spoiler alert: yes he would.

[–]StupidHappyPancakes 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I'm not 100% certain that we can say one's upbringing has absolutely NOTHING to do with sexual orientation. I think it is a very complex interaction between nature and nurture.

[–]CleverNickName 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"reducing it all down to genitals is such a construction"

Yes. Yes, it is. Absolutely.
Which is why it's so tiring how much trans-ideology reduces people with full-fledged complex real sexualities to "having genital preference"; because all they can see about themselves is "I have a penis" or "I have a vagina". Or how they don't have the genital they "really want", I suppose.

Pretty sure there are plenty of penis-havers (ugh) I just don't find attractive. It says nothing about opposites, which they are ALL about.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My head hurts at trying to rationalize how a female bodied individual attracted to male bodies could somehow be "observably gay", especially before her transition.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Referring to this person as "he/him" is perpetuating the nonsense.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And what about the fact that I, a gay man, I have a very clear attraction to a man's bare chest and genitals, but a, indifference to repulsion of a female's bare chest and a somewhat strong repulsion of a female's genitals? I was never told to like the parts supposedly arbitrarily associated with women and be indifferent towards those associated with men, quite the opposite in fact, so how do I naturally have attraction to everything male and not anything female? And how does it align so 100% perfectly with what "society" has said is male and female?

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Having read that, I'm now thinking about my salad dressing selection.