Situation with Jazz is just parental abuse. All Jazz is speaking previously was told to him by his parents, and today it is just a way to cope with trauma.

With El Page it is just lies. She was all the time saying that she is a woman and proud to be lesbian, but she is told all the time that lesbian love is taboo and only heterosexual love is fine, she was denied many roles because she is lesbian, so she was speaking that society is very lesbophobic and she has huge issues of being lesbian, she said she will always be lesbian and will always play lesbian roles to reduce lesbophobia. She was speaking about misogyny in Hollywood and how it is harder to get any roles for a female if you aren't super-sexy woman, and she was jelous that men are not oppressed or harassed like lesbians are. However, last 3-4 years she became very anxious and depressed, stopped all social media interractions, married with a very "pro-gender ideology" woman and was living in Tranada (I wonder if her wife now after encountering lesbian erasure and trans the gay away - still such a gender ideology supporter or she realized what atrocities she was supporting?). Looks like she just breaked down and tried to excape all the hate she was receiving - and by that she shown really bad example for young lesbians, that "even if you are rich, famous and privileged - lesbophobia is still huge and can break you, you can't escape lesbophobia, so trans the gay away and be praised as a man instead". So she is clearly lying about her "being a boy", mostly lying to herself.