All: Disclosure and Consent

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[–]grixitperson 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

If someone says that they like a particular sex, that is the preference. If the other person is not actually that sex, but merely trans, they must disclose.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (37 children)

They have to state that preference though, including the fact that the don't consider trans people to be their identified sexes

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

So why was superstraight such a problem? It was exactly that.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (29 children)

Because the implication was transphobic

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Doing exactly what you suggested is transphobic?

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (21 children)

No doing it in a transphobic way is transphobic

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

So what’s the non transphobic way to do exactly what you said, lol?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There is none lol

You can support everything they demand and believe everything they believe but if you don’t want to fuck ‘em you’re a transphobic Nazi

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Right? Anything other than meekly getting on your knees and loving the girldick is immediately called transphobia. Like, can they really not see how rapey this is?

[–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, I think they can. But since they aren' t called out about it enough, they keep doing it.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (15 children)

To say that you prefer certain kinds of genitalia and that anyone cis or trans who lacks that genitalia you’re not interested in.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

But you just said doing that was transphobic when superstraight did it.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (13 children)

Yeah because super straight does it in a transphobic way

[–]BiologyIsReal 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Stating boundaries is transphobic? Why so many trans people want to have sex with "transphobes", anyway?

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

If you state those boundaries in transphobic terms, then yes its transphobic

[–]worried19 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But you implied elsewhere that stating the preference at all means that someone should be judged. If I only want to date men who have penises, I'm supposed to say so, but then I'm also transphobic for saying so? Is there any acceptable way to state that I don't want to have sex with people who have vaginas?

By the way, I'm still curious. You didn't answer me earlier. What is your sexual orientation?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can someone who doesn’t think sex is real have a sexual orientation?

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good question. Perhaps we should frame it in terms of bodies. What bodies she's attracted to.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you serious? Lmao

[–]grixitperson 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No, that's a given.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

What’s a given?

[–]grixitperson 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That a person who expresses preference in a partiular sex, means thsat sex and not an imitation.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

Not everyone agrees with the view that trans people are an imitation of their identified sex. If you feel that they are, then the onus is on you to make that opinion and preference known

[–]BiologyIsReal 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most people don't think you can change sex, though.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

they don’t count those people