Oregon's "Menstrual Dignity Act" will require schools to put menstruation products in boy's bathrooms by Genderbender in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Meanwhile the republicans will ban all menstruation products at school

What do you think about what’s happening in Texas by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And what makes these parents abusers when they’re following the advice of every credible major medical association in the U.S.?

What do you think about what’s happening in Texas by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it’s also red meat for his conservative base. In a vacuum though do you think it’s a good policy?

QT: Why TM don't mind using women's spaces when it suits them? And why TW don't follow their example? by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There is no looking trans or male, just people whom think some appearances look trans or male. So they should use the bathroom they identify with

Meta: What can we do to stimulate more activity here? by worried19 in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not be mean for one.

QT: Why TM don't mind using women's spaces when it suits them? And why TW don't follow their example? by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you not believe that there are appearances that are inherently cis or trans?

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I am

Qt/tra, how does identity form? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not based on an infant's awareness of it's own appearance, but rather an instinctual preference to absorb certain information into their self-concept based on perceived sex traits groups in their environment

Qt/tra, how does identity form? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not really. Sexual Orientation for instance is an instinctive phenomenon that doesn't depend knowledge of one's own sex traits in order to respond to the sex traits of others. Also this isn't about an infant not bonding with their primary care giver, but rather whether there's an instinct that causes them to preferentially incorporate aspects of perceived sex trait groups into their self-concept.

Qt/tra, how does identity form? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because "trans" like all concepts are subjective constructs. Not all people relate to subjective concepts in the same way

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because knowledge of the entire movie is not necessary for discussing the relevant concepts

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't really. I'm pointing out the double standard

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Disagree.

Qt/tra, how does identity form? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact that bonobos and chimps both segregate into sex groups at least some of the times. No one is a fool.

It's said that infants have the ability to discern different types of sex traits at a young age, so presumably this system would work in tandem with how that sex trait identification function works.

It is a form of identity formation.

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course they can. Forcing people to have sex with coercion, forcing people to penetrate against their will and penetrating orifices with objects definitely count as rape.

Qt/tra, how does identity form? by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Identity forms in roughly the same way as sexual orientation does but for identity instead of attraction. Certain physical features cause an infant to in some way mentally bond and begin to form a individualized group identity with the organisms who posses the same features. I’d imagine part of the evolutionary reason for this is part of the same reason that chimps and bonobos form sex-trait linked groups.

This is of course an averaged model. Just as there are people who have little to no sexual attraction there are presumably people with little to no physical trait group identification.

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Her husband in the movie pretty clearly did.

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like rape apology to me.

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Careful, don’t want to be a rape apologist.

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t give spoilers

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Presumably she stays because she loves him, wants the financial security, or both.

You say it’s not the same, but in what way does it not fulfill the given criteria for rape by deception?

Rape by deception and “Passing” by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You say it’s wrong. Does that mean you consider it rape by deception?

All: "Trans women" at the Olympics by BiologyIsReal in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

”a post-competition study of 693 elite athletes by Healy et al., published in 2014, found significant differences along many variables. The authors found that:

16.5% of men had low testosterone levels, whereas 13.7% of women had high levels with complete overlap between the sexes.[35]

Source:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_verification_in_sports

“Using the log-transformed data to predict a ‘normal range’ for elite female athletes, it would extend from 0.4 to 7.7 nmol/l. There were still eleven female athletes with testosterone levels above 8 nmol/l, three of which had values between 25 and 35 nmol/l, at the upper limit of the normal male range. All but one of these eleven women had normal LH & FSH which would be against but not exclude the likelihood of exogenous testosterone use, and it seems quite possible that one or more of them had the androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS). The other women with intermediately raised testosterone levels may well have had the polycystic ovary syndrome or a more rare form of hyperandrogenism.”

Source:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260522903_Endocrine_Profiles_in_693_Elite_Athletes_in_the_Post-Competition_Setting

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Because the bigotry of some people is not a good enough reason to force people to disclose non-relevant facts about themselves without being prompted

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree with your transphobic definition of rape by deception.

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My viewpoint is also subjective

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

No one can say without good data.

Alleged Trans incident at upscale LA Spa may have been staged by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Two people so far, those making the accusations. That’s not a lot

Alleged Trans incident at upscale LA Spa may have been staged by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Because theyre christian bigots who want to get on the news

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Nah natural is subjective. Are humans not a part of nature?

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

All I hear is a hypocrite with a double standard.

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

What are you “huh?”-ing about?

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Okay be as incorrect as you want

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Is artificial insemination “real” insemination? Obviously it is. Ergo artificial primarily means “made by humans” even if it has a secondary association of being “not real” in some instances.

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I mean you’re the group that allies itself with the right in order to take peoples rights away and make them less safe. So I have the same opinion of GC

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

No all those other situations have it implicit not to do those things without permission. Although dropping acid is fine

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

One is imprinting like ducklings the other is a non-innate desire

Alleged Trans incident at upscale LA Spa may have been staged by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Not really, people are saying it was a hoax because there appears to be no evidence to the contrary except for the words of some christian bigots.

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I think how it seems to you says more about you then it does the situation

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

You don’t know that it doesn’t serve an evolutionary purpose. A sex trait group identity instinct could certainly be said to have a purpose in groups of bonobos or chimps what with those species forming sex trait groups to control the interactions of the larger groups that they’re a part of (matriarchal and patriarchal structures respectively).

I mean children are considered to rapidly absorb the information in their surrounding environment so that part isn’t controversial, as to why they haven’t proposed such an instinct before, perhaps they never thought about it.

People can’t instinctually tell, as this would be an instinct that begins to take affect (I think) as soon as infants and toddlers can tell their parents apart, which occurs before the ability of people to begin to analyze themselves by such standards.

Initially no, but even afterwards the group identity instinct may cause them to feel sameness with their identified group even after transphobic explanations to the contrary.

They do.

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

So then people who lack the capacity to produce gametes are sexless?

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Its an opinion so correct and incorrect don’t enter into it

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

All categories are subjective contructs

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Hard to separate that from the social component though

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Also between being intersex, trans, and lgb* sexual orientations.

*there are more but the study(s) was frames in those terms I believe.

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Seems like you’re presuming that survey results = actual number of lesbians in real life = “natural” biological rate of homosexuality among women, is that correct?

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Autogynephilia is impossible in women, same as autoandrophilia is impossible in men.

Psssh the cis straights talk about “feeling like a woman” or “feeling like a man” in regards to sex all the time. Sounds like gender euphoria in a sexual context to me!

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

agree with that, many of these male transitioners are "transbians" as you say, way more than we would expect had they truly been "female"

I didn’t realize “females” were supposed to keep to some “natural” percentage of non-lesbians.

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

It’s not a desire to be something, its an instinctual identification with something and then a desire to be recognized as the something in a society that is obsessed with labeling people as somethings.

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Instinctual identification with perceived sex trait groups and unconscious replication of norma and behaviors

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

You shouldn’t base your perceptions of GC as a group entirely off of Houseplant

QT, if gender is innate to identity by Houseplant in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Because Gender Identity is just something that causes you to absorb the behaviors and norms of a specific perceived sex trait group in an unconscious manner, usually starting from a very early age. It does not include preprogrammed behaviors (aside from absorbing what is happening around you).

Alleged Trans incident at upscale LA Spa may have been staged by Heimdekledi in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

They don’t need to cover their asses there would have been nothing wrong if a trans woman were using the area.

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

A meaning that has become associated with the word, but artificial’s primary meaning is made by humans. Things made by humans can be real members of a category of things that occur in nature. Artificial insemination is for instance is not fake insemination.

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I did not say otherwise

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

You’ll ignore the cases that don’t fit your model?

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

You didn’t say natural meat you said “real” meat. Meat grown in a lab would still be real meat.

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Lying would be deceitful

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

That doesn’t make it not a diamond

Also 20-30% less per karat is a price I’m seeing

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

You said it wouldn’t be real meat, but it would be considered meat.

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

No, the discussion was that if because a racist might exists who wouldn’t want to unknowingly sleep with people whom they would consider a part of a group that they hate, should people whom consider themselves black for reasons of ancestry be forced to disclose the identity before every sexual encounter?

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

So a person with the capacity to father children but with XX chromosomes and no SRY gene arent male? (Real medical situation that has occurred)

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 9 fun1 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

No meat grown in a lab would still be meat even of its artificially created. Artificial just means made by humans

GC: Do you think it's possible for there to be sex change, "male pregnancy", a third sex, etc, with the use of technology and genetic engineering? by [deleted] in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Not really. An artificial diamond is still a diamond. Artificial just means produced by humans, it doesn’t mean it isn’t “real”.

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I mean obviously

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Nope thats their business. If you care about not dating married people then its on you to ask them if they’re married

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I mean being jewish or being considered “black” for those whose appearances don’t match what is commonly conceived of as “black” appearances

All: What do you miss about the old sub? by womanual in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Disgraceful

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Not really. That’s primarily when the fighting started

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Dana rivers was after GC and what are you referring to that happened in 1973

GC: Scientists say sex is a spectrum, even an illusory man-made social construct by Fastandthecurious in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, its a spectrum

All: What do you miss about the old sub? by womanual in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

It’s not a derogatory term though, and it never has been. It’s only ever been used by trans men to refer to their own bodies. The fact that you banned a term that isn’t even meant for you and is widey used by the trans masc community proves that there is no real intention towards making this place at all acceptable for QT posters. You reign over an echo chamber your highness

All: What do you miss about the old sub? by womanual in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

How about not banning a commonly used term for trans mens genitals on a whim your majesty?

All: Disclosure and Consent by loveSloane in GCdebatesQT

[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah because super straight does it in a transphobic way

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

What part of what I said in any way implies that you can’t turn down anal sex? Has a sea witch stolen both your voice and your ability to convey your feelings non-verbally?

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh look more insults

You are not allowed to reference other commentors bodies specifically unless they bring it up first. Reported for insults and unprompted discussion of another commentors body.

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[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

I mean you’re question was worded offensively in the first place. Transgender people are not a separate category

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You’re clearly wrong or perhaps just in possession of a tiny imagination as the people who use it for themselves don’t find it disrespectful. So no, it being derogatory is just your own silly opinion

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

What are you talking about? GC feminists in the 70’s were the ones who started this whole situation

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

It isn’t only QT and in most instances with QT it’s to avoid language that automatically implies a cisnormative worldview. It is also fine for people to refer to their genitals with any terms they like.

Don’t involve commentors bodies in your arguments unless they themselves bring it up first

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t have to be a trans man to use respectful language, and Bio never indicated that the rule did not apply to trans men.

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

The GC side has never treated the QT side with respect though.

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[–]Heimdekledi[S] 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I mean in such a scenario they would’ve failed as the situations described didn’t involve any wrongdoing, but I’m just saying what the article is saying, I wasn’t there or anything so I can’t confirm what actually happened obviously

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

To say that you prefer certain kinds of genitalia and that anyone cis or trans who lacks that genitalia you’re not interested in.

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

No they don’t have the right in the first place. People aren’t mindreaders

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Look I’m fine if you want to use the term vagina. The term seems a bit like its defining one set of genitals by another set of genitals, which I find kinda problematic, but whatever its your choice.

I did not use it as a general term I used it in relation to trans guys.

How about you not fucking talk about other commentors bodies unless they themselves bring it up like the rules say, kay?

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[–]Heimdekledi[S] 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

All trans people have a gender appropriate cutie mark on their ass .

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I mean yeah the fact that GC can’t respect the language that trans men use for their own bodies is pretty gross. Why wouldn’t that turn away the QT community from participating?

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[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

You’re confused. It is absolutely fine for the trans woman to be there but it feels a bit silly if a specific incident is fabricated. Like no one denies that racially based violence occurs but jussie smollet seems pretty silly if he made up an attack.

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[–]Heimdekledi[S] 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I mean the evidence is the lack of evidence so it feels like a weird situation?

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[–]Heimdekledi 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

No they don’t. If a sexual partner brings up trying an act that someone doesn’t want to try them they can just say no to trying it.

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[–]Heimdekledi[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Because they’re religious bigots who are trying to make a point? Also what about the source at the spa who said there wasn’t a trans woman at the spa that day?

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Its also not what I said. Why would anyone lose the right to say no?

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

And they wonder why they don’t have many QT posters 🙄

But do as thou wilt your majesty.

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[–]Heimdekledi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

A) How?

B) Subjective. The people who use it to refer to their own anatomy presumably don’t feel that way

C) Nope Im referring to trans mens bodies not any women’s bodies