Are there any other *actual* intelligent people on Saidit?

Alienhunter · 2024-04-09T08:30:22+00:00

Bunga wunga? Bunga bunga boo ohh ohhh bazoom.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-09T03:22:16+00:00

"I'm a fox!"

That's nice.

"I'm wearing my fox mask to the restaurant!"

No you aren't.

"But it's my identity!"

Foxes aren't allowed in restaurants. So you aren't coming.

"Where are my leftovers!"

Foxes forage for food in the forest and don't eat human food. I think we still have some garbage we've not thrown out and there are some mice in the basement if you are hungry.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-18T00:23:11+00:00

I've got my own theory on this. Came after I heard some older relatives freaking out about a year or two back about the new thing "furries".

Now of course for anyone who spent any time online in the last 30 years to be spared the horror of knowing about furries is laughable, but a lot of these older people basically didn't spend any time online in the last 30 years and only started once the smartphones rolled out. So they get exposed to it and think it's a new thing. Now for course I can't say anything about this other than nod and express surprise or disagreement at it, because dare I go and say "oh yeah those people have been online forever" it's almost always going to be followed up with suspicion and accusations thrown towards you, because naturally how would anyone know about this unless they were a furry?

So more conservative areas like Utah, I think are more susceptible to it for a number of reasons. One, conservative culture tends to be more puritan and sexually repressed, which I think tends to "breed" more crazy people going into dark corners of the internet and finding weird little niches, rather than just being slightly more open and gently nudged away from the weird, the get good at hiding everything and there's no social dynamic to stop their descent into madness unless it hits a point where it can't be hidden anymore and they have no choice but to fully embrace the weird identity publicly as that is now the only social group that will take them.

Second it's basically taboo to discuss these sorts of things at all. At least from any point of intelligence. Anything of any sort of sexual nature in conservative circles is essentially a taboo subject unless it's simply condemning something that the reactionaries have reacted to already and is socially safe to condemn. As such they're almost totally blind to these weird subcultures and potential groups and basically know fuck all nothing about them.

Cue in teenage rebellion, jokesters and the like, who think it's hilarious to watch a bunch of Mormon women freaking out about litter boxes (because it is hilarious) and having nobody in the picture to reign in the hysteria because it's social suicide to say "Oh I know what furries are, they're an Internet subculture that has existed for decades, this is likely a joke".

Conservative Christian groups tend to take the story of Adam and Eve in the garden and glean from it a lesson that obtaining knowledge is itself a sin, instead they value blind Innocence. It's a very stupid position, as man is already a fallen race which has lost its Innocence, one is simply allowing themselves to be blind to existing evil should they choose not to attempt to understand it, or to learn about how it operates, this is one reason why conservative groups often lose out in cultural battles even if they have a strong position on some issues, they prefer to be reactionary and sit around and only take action after some perceived threat has become such a problem that it is visible to them, rather than proactively seek out and learn about as much of the world as they can so that threats can be known and identified, and neutralized before they become problems, often by far less involved and far less unpleasant means than what later interventions require. It's one of the reasons I'm very critical of soft language. It allows for the problematically innocent to participate in government and decision making to the disadvantage of larger society. If you get offended at words like "lame" instead of "mobility challenged" then you really should have no fucking place in adult circles. We can't discuss the actual problem without dancing around a bunch of dumb holdups, meaning we can't actually discuss how we are going to help people who are lame get as full of access to society as possible.

And we can't discuss furries often dressing up as children's characters and creating sexually suggestive content as a potential threat to children or their own development because some overly sensitive hag is going to shut that down and insist we only talk about nice things. Leaving the threat unknown, undiscussed, and present, with a newfound confidence that it can persist safe from criticism.

This then leaves the only people who knows about it on the fringes, and gives way to the extremes. And no intelligent conversation can be had.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-08T23:14:08+00:00

This whole episode feels like a strawman argument made by a misogynist about why women shouldn't be pilots lol. She's basically going up there and demonstrating exactly those stereotypical "feminine" traits which aren't congruent to any professional role and I should hope any serious professional feminist or career focused woman would be first in line to shut her down lest such displays become common and reflect poorly on the entire sex.

Any pilot regardless of who they are who puts on a bizzare display like this needs to be grounded. We don't know if they are drunk or suicidal or just having a moment but regardless we don't want them responsible for people's lives.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-13T10:50:42+00:00

I'm laughing my ass off, of all the reasons a politician is forced to resign.

This guy apparently doesn't give enough of a shit to have a problem filming himself eating shit. Why the fuck is he such a pussy that he'll resign? Like if you're going to be a shit eating bastard why the fuck aren't you fighting it? It's not like you have anything to lose? You're already the shit guy, why leave gracefully? Your reputation will take a hit? How does it go worse than shit?

Alienhunter · 2024-04-18T02:09:16+00:00

I've a good idea for a reality show. Find a bunch of these internet communists. Get a good mix of them. Give them a bunch of land in the wilderness and let them build an idealized society themselves. A make your own kabutz sort of deal. I reckon it would be exceptionally entertaining.

Aren't there those islands off the coast of California nobody lives on? Maybe we could get California to give us one as a gift towards the spirit of communism? Hell maybe could even spin the reality show as a way push the profits into the new communist community. Either way be infinitely entertaining. I suspect the whole thing will fall apart when 90% of them refuse to be farmers.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-18T02:05:08+00:00

Yeah the North Koreans aren't going to accept a bunch of redditors lol. They don't want that shit.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-09T03:08:07+00:00

Always nice to see the Otherkin pop up again nice break from the transexual madness.

So basically if she's self identifying as a Therian, it means she's gone down some internet rabbit hole and isn't mature enough to separate online crazy from reality. It also means she's probably gotten into weird chat rooms and those are filled with pedophiles ready to play the "your parents don't understand you but I do!" Pied Piper game and the kid will follow if you aren't careful. The younger child is probably just copy cat behavioring so it isn't an issue.

For the older child what you do is you go log into your internet router and start monitoring their internet history. Figure out what they are doing or where they are going. If they aren't going anywhere or talking to anyone weird, it's probably just a bizzare teenage phase they'll grow out of presently. Figure out if it's trending with her friends by talking with other parents to figure out if this is just a weird teenage social fad or if it's something she's getting from the dark places of the internet. If it's just cringe teenage stuff then it's often best to let them figure out shit on their own provided it doesn't go too far.

If it's dark internet shit then you have to be careful, being too heavy handed may push your child away directly into the predators waiting jaws, gather information first by keeping tabs on their browsing history but don't let them know that. Maybe block some IP ranges on the router so it looks like the sites they use don't exist anymore. As for the smartphone better to never give those to young kids in the first place but once the genie is out of the bottle it's not going back in, my solution, make the kids pay for their own phone. Yeah I could put you on the family plan but I don't feel like paying for your data. You pay me for it I'll put you on. Time to maybe go get a job? If you're paying for your own internet then you're out working in the real world and hopefully not getting sucked into the online space fully.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-18T05:45:33+00:00

Can't be sure if they are girls there though.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-15T05:32:35+00:00

It's the problem with the gender identity rabbit hole. I think these online spaces basically feed into exasperating these underlying anxieties.

So like, this guy is worried about how he's acting like a gross man and all that because he is sexually attracted to women, just like a man would be. It's funny.

Ditch the identity side of things and you've just got a "feminine man" like I think it's weird if you want to wear a dress sometimes as a man but minus the identity issues you'll probably not have too hard a time finding someone who is into that and is willing to date you.

I know a few men who are very, "stylish" and dress in ways that aren't necessarily feminine but basically use makeup and nail paint and all that shit. And they always seem to have dates easily enough.

Course there's the whole "lesbian" fetish thing, like whatever if you're a man and into lesbians I can understand that but that's like being a fish into breathing. Not going to happen. I'll never understand why you'd want to identify as a lesbian since you will be the hero who will reduce your dating pool down to zero.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-18T00:40:31+00:00

I think these days with the prevalence of smart devices, even if you're pretty vigilant on keeping them from exposure to internet bullshit, they're going to get second hand exposure, and you can't really cut them off from social circles without dire consequences perhaps worse than the second hand exposure itself.

I think you've got to keep a pretty even temper and maintain good lines of communication with your kid, about the only way to navigate now. You want to keep your kid open with you about what they are hearing and seeing so you can help them navigate it. If you aren't careful they'll close up and not tell you anything and then they're going to only get their guidance from the internet which is stupid.

Still can't allow dumbass stuff. If the kid wants to play pretend they are a fox or something whatever, that's normal kid stuff, if they want to play pretend they're a fox or something during class or at the bank or something that's a hard no, time and a place. Foxes don't go to school. They also don't get to eat dinner with the humans. If you want to play fox at the dinner table go into the basement and eat some rats like a real fox.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-08T23:44:37+00:00

It's important to respect diverse cultural practices.

Alienhunter · 2024-05-07T23:12:29+00:00

Everyone should do this I think. Unless you are fucking retarded about it there's basically no way you can get in trouble.

I've been refusing to answer racial surveys for years by always ticking other and listing human as my ethnicity. And if someone wants to have a problem with it I'll snap back quickly, it's a legitimately held belief and if you take issue with it you are literally dehumanizing me.

Alienhunter · 2024-05-01T01:31:39+00:00

Definitely grounds for divorce I think.

The advice I'd give to the woman in such a situation is to basically be like nope and get out of the relationship before the real drama happens. If my spouse told me they were actually a boy or a girl I'd be long gone before they even realized I wasn't accepting of it.

Alienhunter · 2024-05-01T01:24:54+00:00

It seems to me that any state that is interesting in controlling the means of production is going to take a keen interest in the means of producing people.

Like it or not gay couplings do not produce children. It stands to reason that any centralized planning will only value such relationships when they have a situation where they don't need more children. The massive post war population booms being a good example of this. Such a situation isn't sustainable and as population demographics shift you'll see a focus back on traditional relationships for procreative purposes.

I think a more interesting idea to ponder is the benefits of gay relationships for any sort of corporate entities. It somewhat makes sense to me that corporations would be interested in hiring gay employees as they are far less likely to take parental leave.

Alienhunter · 2024-05-01T01:09:30+00:00

As said before the only winning move is not to play. You either straight up don't allow it or you quit. It wouldn't be allowed if the women on the team all quit in solidarity.

Since it's women's sports it's really a women's issue and I think rather than blaming the trans-women for taking advantage of these obvious loopholes (it is basically cheating) a large share of the blame needs to be put on the women who allowed this situation to begin in the first place.

Don't play games, don't fuck around, just give the ultimatum. Either you don't allow trans-women to compete on the women's team, or else I will resign. Enough women do that and the nonsense ends.

You don't have a choice anyway in the long term. If this is allowed more and more trans-women will dominate women's sports and it will essentially become a trans-women league by default and you'll be edged out anyway. Why not just quit of your own accord now and not bother to deal with that nonsense?

Alienhunter · 2024-04-21T23:09:55+00:00

Yeah if it's true it's simply false advertising.

If you sell a 24 oz cup and there's less than 24 oz in it that's no different than telling someone the price is five dollars and charging their card six.

It's basically fraud. Should be punished severely.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-18T05:47:00+00:00

Pretending to be a woman or delusionally believe they actually are women?

Alienhunter · 2024-04-17T23:58:44+00:00

No. Elon Musk is entirely a marketing guy. He's good at marketing big ideas and getting the scientifically illiterate to jump on board. He's very good at giving convincing sounding answers that will sway an otherwise uninformed listener compare to date more boring and dry technical answers.

We need only look at his constantly shifting timeline for reaching mars and building the colony. Dates come and go, it's similar to any apocalypse cult. Jesus is coming by 2011? Ok. Where is he? Oh shit missed the date? Oh well he'll come six months later. Oh shit missed that date too, where's the cult leader gone with all the donations.

He says some shit like he's going to send 10 million people to Mars by like 2030 or something? People believe him. But like, anyone with a rudimentary understanding of orbital mechanics knows you can't just go to Mars whenever, you gotta wait for the planets to "align" and get your launch window (or else it takes considerably longer and costs a fuck ton more) and that only happens about once every 18 months. How many people can you fit on a rocket? Musk's rocket is supposed to fit 100 people. But the best orbital flights we've managed so far only have about a dozen I think.

And to go all the way to Mars you'll need tons of supplies as well which further increases the mass you need per person and makes the whole thing harder. But like, let's assume that 100 people flights are even possible. And let's assume it's back in 2020 when he said shit like the 10,000,000 people on mars.

How many flights will you need to send that many to Mars? A hundred thousand. How many manned flights to Mars have we managed so far? Zero. And like if you're going to do that in a decade you only have about 5 launch windows in that time. Can we scale up and send 20,000 flights to Mars every two years when we can't even manage one right now?

Elon Musk's plans are all pipe dreams. He's making his money elsewhere. There's no profit to be found on Mars. Maybe he'll manage to send a manned flights there eventually. But his long term plans as stated are rediculous to the point of being totally unfeasible.

I think Musk's business model is to trick stupid people into giving him money. Simple as that. Stupid people vote more stupid people into positions of authority. Musk comes along and convinces them to give him money for some pie in the sky project that won't ever pan out. It doesn't pan out, but the money is "gone".

Electric cars are probably the one thing that isn't totally insane he's doing, because just about anyone is going to tell you that eventually electric cars will become the standard. (Though I think Hydrogen is likely to reach market penetration first) But even then you can see that Tesla is mostly a presentation over function luxury vehicle. They've got all that touchscreen and smart car crap that is flashy and feels "futuristic" to distract you for the problems the cars have in terms of efficiency and cost.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-10T00:07:58+00:00

I think I'm this case it's well within the "allowed" territory of first amendment expression.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

I don't think you can construe an argument that a representative is unable to invite a religious group to speak publicly at the capital anymore than they can invite any constituent to speak publicly at the capital. And prayer is simply a form of speech.

I also don't think first amendment really prohibits the use of "religion in laws" at least as far as religious reasoning is concerned. It would be a gross violation of the first amendment to pass a law making the Catholic church the authority on abortion, but a law that restricts abortion would not quality provided it neither establishes a particular religion or prohibits the free exercise of a religion. There are many laws that prohibit religious expression but they need to fall under very narrow conditions outside free exercise. Human sacrifice is a good example. It's an established religious practice with historical relevancy but isn't considered free exercise since it infringes on someones right to live.

I also think it's not really necessary to make 1st amendment insinuations against this sort of behavior. You merely need to go and say "the opposition is literally speaking gibberish, why should we take anything they say seriously?".

Alienhunter · 2024-05-07T23:42:29+00:00

The security concerns with the information going to China are legit but the government merely wants to have a monopoly on that sort of information themselves. They don't care about what the average person worrying about TikTok cares about which are the psychological effects and the marketing towards children. Because domestic social media companies do the same thing and they don't care because they are American owned.

I think American society as a whole just needs to start treating underage social media use the same way we treat cigarettes and alcohol. Hell I'd rather catch my kids smoking and having a pint then doom scrolling all day.

Alienhunter · 2024-05-07T23:33:16+00:00

You'd just ban anyone who isn't a "biological woman" then you maybe carve out a very small and very limited exception to trans people who have actually transitioned fully and have the receipts to prove it, but maybe you don't let them in the same changing room as the biological women. For their own protection of course. Wouldn't want them to be harassed for being ugly.

Alienhunter · 2024-05-07T23:28:09+00:00

Yeah no shit. One it's reddit. Two it's people who have nothing better to do with their lives than go on Reddit and talk about their identity problems vs video games or movies or literally any other banal interest that is more fun.

Gonna naturally devolve into the most miserable types getting off on each other's misery I think.

Like any "mentally healthy" trans person isn't going around screaming about validation 24/7, they're just living their life and not giving a fuck if other people accept them or not. Frankly I get along fine with most of these people even if we have very deep disagreements when it comes to trans issues in general since they can actually hold conversations about things other than that.

Back 20 years ago when everyone was coming out of the closet as well was similar. Actual gay people that were otherwise normal? No issues. We don't talk about preferred positions or whatnot, 99% of contexts it's totally irrelevant. But there was always some group of "total fags" that literally would just go around screaming at people "you must accept us" and like, nobody likes you, not even the actual faggots.

I remember there being some demonstration for "national day of silence" for gay people or something where they just taped their mouths shut and refused to participate in class for a day and like, whatever as far as protests go that's pretty easy to ignore but I can't help but think what insufferable twats they were and how ineffective the protest was. Cause I was thinking like, ok so gay people don't have a voice so instead of speaking out for them you're going to just be annoyingly silent about everything? So random people who don't know anything about it are going to have their first impression of the gay rights movement as a bunch of annoying theater kids refusing to participate in class discussions and group projects, well you're just going to piss off a bunch of people.

Hey we've got a speaking test scheduled for the same day as our actual protest can you reschedule. Um no. You can protest and I support your right to protest, but the test is on this day and if you don't have a valid medical excuse you'll get a zero. But hey, you've got to make the decision if gay rights are more important than your grades anyway or else your protest is meaningless without some sacrifice. So if I move the date it hurts your movement actually.

Turns out grades are more important than gay rights, who could have thunk it.

Alienhunter · 2024-05-07T23:09:44+00:00

Yeah basically. Take whatever trendy identity is going and people will find media that supposedly espouses those themes.

At a very basic point finding your "true self" or in other words the coming of age story is an old and fairly universal plot and the trans-narrative is a variation on that, albeit one that takes a kind of opposite approach to the traditional "accept who you are and your role in life" with "don't accept who you are and define it yourself" but that gets pretty messy into various points of view.

Very simply the trans types on the internet are basically just obsessed with their own trans Identity and try to find parallels everywhere because they desperately seek validation and acceptance from all sources, so if they watch a drama about say, a kid that wants to be a musician but their parents discourage them and encourage them to be a doctor instead, they're gonna be all like "omg trans themes!"

Alienhunter · 2024-05-07T21:40:20+00:00

I agree they are basically statistically irrelevant in the long run but usually countries that go towards such centralized planning tend to be totalitarian states and they aren't usually tolerant of "alternative lifestyles" outside of what the planning committee have prescribed as best.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-24T20:57:22+00:00

My infant self identifies as "waaaaaaaaaaaaah".

Alienhunter · 2024-04-18T02:03:50+00:00

Could be? Wouldn't be surprised if there was some minority of people into that, and some minority of people totally and utterly morally outraged at it. Though without the internet and the ability to self publish your opinions to the world, their thoughts will be lost to history.

I suspect that a good portion of these subcultures are very very old. Crossdressing for example shows up in ancient texts from time to time so I am almost certain that it has existed for millennia. Though I very much doubt you will ever find any literature written by cross dressers themselves until recently. Before the advent of the printing press literacy being the sole purview of the educated scholarly class and all that.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-18T00:33:57+00:00

I think it's more likely the consequence of unlimited unsupervised internet access vis smart devices.

Furries have an interesting history as a subculture and you can trace their history back as a group pretty far. It's a pre-internet phenomenon actually. And it seems like they've always had a lot of infighting between the more innocent "I like cute animals" wing and the more sexually lurid elements. I don't think these elements are naturally the same either.

I think that probably the rise of film as a medium likely triggered some kind of paraphilic response in some portion of the population that later became furries, this was likely increased in the 80's and 90's due to the prevalence of home video. The development of the internet allowed the more lurid elements space to spread. And I think the problematic issue of having cute animal characters engaged in sexual situations is going to mean that children are going to inevitably stumble across it. I don't think many are getting these ideas directly from the parents.

I think basically anyone born before the 1980's had no clue what the fuck was on the internet and didn't realize this shit was out there until very recently. It will be interesting to see how the people who grew up with this sort of unlimited internet access will raise their own kids. I suspect that they'll be more aware of the kind of content that can exist and be a lot smarter about how they let their kids access the internet.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-15T05:49:40+00:00

Puberty blockers by the sound of it.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-15T05:47:45+00:00

Iran is a trans friendly paradise! They're pro transition!

Alienhunter · 2024-04-15T05:24:21+00:00

Well regardless of the questionable symbolism, they exist.

Hah weird. Go figure. Sometimes reality is stranger than fiction.

They should add those to count chocula cereal.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-13T10:45:08+00:00

I've never heard of chocolate crucifixes before. It sounds like the sort of thing an AI might think up.

Wouldn't eating the religious symbol of your god be offensive? Then again I guess communion is eating Jesus and drinking his blood so who knows.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-10T00:15:43+00:00

I think that there's been a certain abuse of the feminist ideals away from promoting the education and development of women into competent leaders and fully contributing members of the community more into a kind of carte blanche to engage in "bitchy" behavior that isn't socially beneficial and engage in more hostility to positions they consider masculine.

I see it more as a kind of weakness of society to simply shit down poor behavior. Women who wish to engage with society as responsible adults are usually welcome, women who wish to engage in petty emotional displays are usually not.

I think the problem is that given a lack of real problems in modern society, the female psyche is somewhat predisposed to finding threats to their home and their clan due to millennia of evolutionary conditioning, in the modern era that often means that they are predisposed to finding problems where none exist and I think the affluent housewife living in a relative life of luxury away from the existential pressures of a substanence lifestyle has a deep psychological need to find problems or dangers in the world that they can fix, and lacking any real problems they will quickly make some or give underserved attention and energy towards minor problems best left alone.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-09T02:55:46+00:00

Korea made it illegal recently. So now the dog farmers are just gonna kill all their dogs I guess.

I'm not particularly keen on eating dog but it seems stupid to ban it. Meat is meat.

Alienhunter · 2024-04-08T21:39:32+00:00

I don't think there is any logic behind it because if these people were thinking they'd not be making these stupid policies. I think you've just got a bunch of retarded policy makers making policies because they want to feel like they are doing something and they've screamed transphobia for so long they don't have anyone telling them they are retarded anymore.

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