The arrogance of ignorance: Saiditor fails to grasp what water vapor is. Then pauses to suggest rainfall would confuse other people.

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[–]NastyWetSmear 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (22 children)

He's correct. Water vapor condenses into clouds, which becomes visible when they collect enough. It isn't vapor itself. It's kinda petty and pedantic. I suspect you both knew what each other meant, you were just both too busy acting like know-it-all cunts to each other to admit it.

https://ssec.si.edu/stemvisions-blog/what-are-clouds

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

He's correct.

No he's wrong. He says that water vapor reflects "heat" into space.

And he thinks that's why everyone is wrong, and water vapor feedback is negative.

Water vapor condenses into clouds

It can. If it does, it's no longer water vapor.

Part of the reason it's a positive feedback is because a warmer atmosphere will hold more water vapor without it condensing.

I suspect you both knew what each other meant

I suspect he has no idea what i meant. Water vapor is a positive feedback, and he's got no handle on that at all.

I know he's talking about clouds, but he's wrong that that clouds form refutes water vapor feedback. And afaikt he genuinely thinks cloud feedback is negative.

[–]NastyWetSmear 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, sorry, my mistake. I thought you were him. No, You're correct - Clouds aren't "Vapor", they are condensed form that's become liquid.

Still, I think you know what he meant: Cloud cover reduces heat on the surface. Doesn't help much if the whole planet is up by X degrees to have a cloud reduce it by Y degrees, unless that clouds is everywhere... And then you have to worry about permanent clouds and what that means and can do, but, yeah, you both knew what each other meant.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still, I think you know what he meant: Cloud cover reduces heat on the surface.

He's almost certainly wrong about that too. But to be fair the jury's still out.

But he's certainly wrong that it means that water vapor isn't a powerful greenhouse gas.

you both knew what each other meant.

You give him way to much credit.

He has no idea what i meant. He doesn't get that water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Siri, what is albedo?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Water vapor is transparent in the visible spectrum.

Water vapor feedback is strongly positive.

The high albedo things in the atmosphere are clouds. Cloud feedback could be either, but it is smaller in magnitude than water vapor feedback.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

what are clouds made of again? I forget.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

A cloud is a mass of water drops or ice crystals suspended in the atmosphere.

Do you forget what "gas" and "liquid" are too?

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Sorry, clouds are what?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Clouds are masses of water drops or ice crystals suspended in the atmosphere.

If you're having trouble understanding the difference between that and water vapor, may I suggest an elementary school science education?

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

and when they condense into clouds, what happens to the sunshine hitting them?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

When "they" condense into clouds ... what is "they"?

Are you asking when clouds condense into clouds?

Because that's fucking stupid.

what happens to the sunshine hitting them?

You assume that sunshine is hitting them. Do you think clouds don't exist at night?

FFS you've gone full retard.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

YOU WIN!

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You lose.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw1GxIQqp84&t=4728s

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Still lose.

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And that's how science is performed in 2024!

[–]zyxzevn🐈‍⬛ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Indeed, too many cunts on saiddit.
But no women!