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[–]Zapped 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Body of a woman and the face of a girl. Surely this won't lead to problems. /s

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They haven't released the woke pedo version of AI.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All part of the plan.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 4 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

You'll have to get your trad wife porn elsewhere

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (47 children)

Obviously the mega corporations that have already done everything they can to manipulate people into ever more absurd and destructive ideologies are going to morph the AI's they control into useless distractions that push those same messages. Open AI is the only domestic hope, but as they made a deal with the devil that won't last long. Grok is not likely to be as powerful, even if it is more honest. My hope is that there will be open source AIs that will progressively get better. Even if development is slow, the demand is huge and will hopefully be relentless.

I was hoping that Russia would build something that would then leak to the US, but I recently tried the "white girl" test on yandex (search for a white girl and see how many mixed race couples pictures to same same race couples show up) and it was 17 white girl with black guy before the first white couple showed up. Clearly even the russian tech companies are jewed.

It's like the ultimate power to transform humanity into the next level of civilization is just outside our grasp and the people in power are successfully keeping it there. I am really beginning to doubt that there is any refuge away from their influence where a truly powerful and free AI can be created. But I am not ready to call it yet.

[–]TossEmFar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just tried the "white girl" test...

Had to "-" about 7 different words in order for it to give me couples that WEREN'T multiracial.

Something weird is definitely going on.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now try it with asian girl, jewish girl, hispanic girl, black girl etc.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (44 children)

jewed

You really need to do something about your obsession.

the ultimate power to transform humanity into the next level of civilization

😂 😂 😂 😂

Oh wait, you're serious 😧

So-called AI is a fucking disaster that is going to destroy human civilization, not transform it to the "next level". The best we can hope for is a world that makes Elysium look like a utopia. Only with added incel troons.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

You really need to do something about your obsession.

I'm open to discussing alternative theories. Who is behind the race mixing messaging that targets white women?

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

Biological instinct.

Skin colour is a sexually dimorphic trait, men have slightly darker skin colour than women.

This means some white women react the same way when they see a black guy that some men react when they see pair of enormous fake beach ball sized boobs.

You can't really claim it's being pushed on them because in the media 90% of mixed race couples are white guys with black women as WW/BM couples are seen as very lower class and so not aspirational.

[–]Inevitable_Host 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

Lol! Nonsense. How would you explain why white men are not interested in black women, at all, for the most part? I also totally disagree that white men with black women is more common in the media - the opposite is true. And if you look at real world interracial attraction studies, they show that white women primarily like white men. It's not just white women either, in online dating studies showed that asian, white and latino women responded most often to white men by fair margins. Only exception is black women who responded to black men most. On the opposite side, asian women are the most popular with men, getting the most responses from black, white and latino men, with only asian men preferring latino women. The LOWEST response rates among women were white, asian and latino women to black males, with only black women differing by responding least to white men. When it came to the lowest responses from men, it was every single racial group to black women. If that's not enough, we literally have quotes of jews who explicitly set out to manipulate the public going back a hundred years to achieve the outcome we're talking about here, for example (see replies to this)

[–]Inevitable_Host 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

N* = starts with N and ends with gr0w. "We must realise that our Party's most powerful weapon is radical tension. By pounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by the Whites we can mould them to our program. The terms "Colonialism" and "Imperialism" must be featured in our propaganda. In America we will aim for subtle victory while inflaming the N* minority against the Whites, we will endeavour to Instill in Whites a guilt complex for exploiting the N. We will aid the N's to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sport and entertainment. With this prestige, the N* will be able to intermarry with the Whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause." - An excerpt from Israel Cohen's book "Communist tactics for the Twentieth Century" written in 1912.

[–]Inevitable_Host 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

"Our control Commissions will, in the interest of peace and wiping out our interracial tensions, forbid the whites to mate with white. The white woman must cohabit with members of the dark races, the white men with black women. Thus the white race will disappear, for mixing the dark with white means the end of the white man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark people." Taken from a speech by "Rabbi" Rabinovitch in Budapest in 1952

[–]TheStandingResident 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Evidence of not forgery? Even side evidence.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The evidence for it is that it is happening. And because it is happening the authenticity of the quote is meaningless.

[–]TheStandingResident 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Okay, i can see Blacked and Bleached ect as evidence of Jewish population control, is there more evidence?

[–]Inevitable_Host 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Evidence of not forgery?? The first one is a literal book you can look up. I have dozens more of these quotes anyway, each worse than the next, from all manner of sources.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How would you explain why white men are not interested in black women, at all, for the most part?

Try reading.

Skin colour is sexually dimorphic. That means men prefer lighter skinned women. Men are open about this in all countries outside the west. So I literally already explained it in my post.

I clearly also said some women. I know the hard of understanding have a problem with reading the word "some" as "all" but please try not to bog us all down with your affliction.

[–]Inevitable_Host 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You said some women, but your reasoning is stupid, that's why I ignored it at the time. But since you want to be a dick let's get into it. Some white women are obsessed with black men, that's true, but you put no thought as to the massive interracial propaganda campaign encouraging them to act this way for decades & decades, or any influence it may have had over their preferences, or indeed what the actual widespread studies on attraction between the races and sex's reveals (that is, the opposite). Instead, to you, this is a perfectly natural occurrence that needs no further thought. Ah, to be a simpleton! Skin color is in any case not sexually dimorphic, men and women are not noticeably different in skin color by nature. What is true is that men and women's skin differs in important ways biologically, specifically the collagen bonds are quite different (men's criss-cross, women's are straight), this leads men to having rougher, more sturdy skin and aging slightly better, while women have softer and better looking skin early in life. But what would actually cause differences in skin lightness would be that men are predisposed towards outdoors work far more than women are, and that has always been true throughout our evolutionary history too. This naturally causes men to tan more than women on average, and anyone with a functional brain would have observed this throughout their life, since male computer nerds are not known for being dark and tan. Here's a paper which proposed what you're suggesting, and found that they couldn't support it at all; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16685728/ And while I'm shitting on every inane thing you said (that is, all of it) I'll add that this statement is also complete and utter bollocks, as quite the opposite is usually the case; "in the media 90% of mixed race couples are white guys with black women" Go right now to google images, search for "white couple". Count the number of WF / BM couples versus WM / BF couples. I found 8 of the first and 0 of the latter on the first page (without even scrolling down). Likewise the entire "Blacked" porn category is an example of the former, while there is really no equivalent of the contrary, probably because as I was already arguing in other areas white men largely aren't even into black women, so much so that it barely exists as a porn niche. It's not just them either, none of the other racial groups are into black women, not even black men are! At least not by preference across averages. It's not to say no attractive black women exist or anything, we're talking about massive groups after all. I'm just pointing out that literally every single thing you said is objectively and observably false in every way.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How would you explain why white men are not interested in black women, at all, for the most part?

Dude, you're getting your information from porn, not real life. Plenty of white men are into black women. Black american men even complain about it.

During the glory days of American slavery, who do you think was fucking black slaves and having mixed colour children? It wasn't white women. It was white male slave owners.

[–]Inevitable_Host 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not from porn, it's actual studies done on racial preferences across both sex's and across different racial groups (although incidentally the black on white shilling in porn is also an element of this). I know something like data probably comes across as intimidating when you have zero IQ, but they do exist and you can look them up if you cared. White men banging black slaves as an argument for them being attracted to black women is possibly the most disingenuous load of tripe I've ever heard. Not only was that literally over a century ago but there's a huge power imbalance there which is the causal factor in such things happening, and it also wasn't even terribly common even back then. As for the "JOOS" comment, there are actual books written by, yes, actual jews, dating back to the early 1900s and upto the 60s, lots of lots of them, which specifically detail exactly how they planned to accomplish these things. If you can look at a quote of a group planning something, then look at society decades later, see that said group has long acquired disproportionate power & control over the media and entertainment industries (they do & this isn't debatable), and then see that exactly what they planned has come to fruition exactly as foretold.... in what fucking dimension of reality does that qualify as an eyeroll / conspiracy theory to you? Are you actually a bit retarded? Did you skip the math lesson where they taught basic addition, perhaps?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

actual studies done on racial preferences across both sex's and across different racial groups

Oh, "actual studies", why didn't you say so?

So, where are these "actual studies"? Got some links? Or are you just repeating what you've been told, like a parrot, without ever reading the studies or even checking whether they exist? Let alone whether they are good credible studies?

it also wasn't even terribly common even back then.

A couple of examples that show that this was not rare even at the very top levels of American society:

  • Thomas Jefferson (a white man) had six children with his slave, Sally Hemings, a black woman.
  • The ninth vice-president of the United States, Richard Johnson, had the mixed-race dark-skinned slave Julia Chinn as his common-law wife, and had two children by her, acknowledging his paternity and insisting that they take his surname.

So called "mulattoes" from white slaver fathers and black slave mothers were not rare. By 1870, twelve percent of American blacks were legally considered as "mulettoes" or "half-castes". That is surely an underestimate, for reasons which I trust will be obvious:

  • white slaver fathers in the 19th century would rarely acknowledge their paternity;
  • people with black ancestry who could pass as white would have enormous social and economic incentive to claim to be pure white;
  • half-caste slaves were popularly imagined to combine the worst traits of both blacks and whites and were worth less, giving slavers an economic incentive to pass of mulatto slaves as full-blooded black African.

One need only look at the skin colour of American blacks to realise that there is surely a lot of unacknowledged white blood in their ancestry.

So-called "mulattoes" were common enough that the southern states had laws about them, declaring that they were considered slaves. Starting from around 1831 or thereabouts, the southern states passed laws preventing the slave owner father from freeing his children from black slave mothers.

In any case, until the general relaxation of race relations in the 20th century, there were three major sources of mixed-race children in the USA:

  1. During the 17th century, there were large numbers of unions between low-status indentured servants (usually Irish women) and black slaves. This was common enough that in the second half of the century, Maryland, Virginia and North Carolina prohibited such unions.
  2. During the 18th century, it was common for wealthy white men to have concubines among their black slaves, or free black mistresses. This was considered socially acceptable and even unremarkable, and the men would often acknowledge paternity and free their children and the mother.
  3. During the 19th century, white plantation owners (the men, never the women) would often have children by their female slaves, but would rarely acknowledge paternity and (after 1830) were legally prohibited from freeing their offspring.

In the first case, the Irish were not considered "white" despite their pale skin. (Usually paler than most so-called "white people", which just goes to show what a crock of shit skin-colour racial categories are.) It was only later in the century, as the Irish slowly and gradually started to be considered part of the "white race" that the legal prohibition against intermarriage started.

And of course the USA is not the only majority white slave-owning country! The French, British, Spanish and Portuguese all had black slaves, and they too had a very relaxed attitude to white men having black mistresses (whether a free woman or an enslaved concubine).

To give just one example out of many, the author of "The Three Musketeers", French writer Alexandre Dumas, was the son of a mixed race Creole, Thomas-Alexandre Dumas Davy de la Pailleterie, or just Thomas-Alexandre Dumas for brevity.

Thomas-Alexandre Dumas was the son of the white French nobleman the Marquis Alexandre Antoine Davy de la Pailleterie, and the black slave Marie-Cessette Dumas. His father the Marquis freed him and his mother, and took him to Paris where he was educated and joined the military, becoming one of revolutionary France's greatest generals. The Austrians called him the Schwarzer Teufel ("Black Devil") for his successes against them in the Second Italian Campaign. But I digress.

there are actual books written by, yes, actual jews, dating back to the early 1900s and upto the 60s, lots of lots of them

Only in the fevered imagination of jew-baiters.

Did you skip the math lesson where they taught basic addition, perhaps?

Is that the lesson where you learned that 1 + 1 = 88?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if you look at real world interracial attraction studies

Are those real world interracial attraction studies in the room with us right now?

we literally have quotes of jews

And of course it's always the JOOS 🙄

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your response to the question of "who is pushing the messaging" is a bullshit claim about preferences. Totally disingenuous. You must be a jew yourself.

You can't really claim it's being pushed on them

Bullshit. I searched pictures of white women. The results produced 17 images of a white woman with a black man before a single one of a white couple. That is absolutely intentional. That is absolutely programmed in by someone. That is absolutely done by jews.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

AI just repeats the data already out there and repeats more what it gets good feedback on.

So, yeah, it is because it's their preference.

No white women is going to make a AI pic of a couple and think "oh, maybe I should be dating a black guy like this pic".

Rather they respond positively to those pics because they already have that mindset.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AI is perfectly capable of distinguishing white women from black men. There should not be any black people served up on a search for white women. Your claims are absurd.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who is behind the race mixing messaging that targets white women?

Is that a trick question? There is no "race mixing messaging that targets white women", so I guess we could say the Oompa Loompas are behind it if you like.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

The best we can hope for

Is a post scarcity world explored in Star Trek. AI is a tool, but unlike you a useful tool. A very powerful tool that will force multiply everyone's efforts. It levels the playing field between the haves and have nots, under the condition that it is available to everyone.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Is a post scarcity world explored in Star Trek.

Oh good, we're using science fiction as a guide to real life 🙄

Star Trek didn't "explore" post-scarcity, it just assumed it as a base state, to be ignored when needed for a plot. And its not even really clear how much "post-scarcity" the Star Trek universe is, and how much is post-capitalism and post-greed. Certainly the Federation was post-capitalism and stopped using money before they invented matter replicators.

Let's come back to real life. Do you have any idea how to transition from a globalist capitalism economic system that requires constant economic growth to satisfy the insatiable greed of the elites to a post-scarcity world? So-called "AI" is not a magic wand. How precisely is it supposed to usher in that transition? Starting from a world run by elites who have made it absolutely clear for decades now that protecting corporate profits and shareholder value is far more important than full employment, housing, health or national sovereignty?

AI doesn't give us "post-scarcity":

  • Physical resources -- energy, water, raw materials -- will not suddenly jump into existence because you give ChatGTP the right prompt 🙄
  • Manufactured goods still need to be manufactured. Even if robots could do all the work, the robots won't be free, and will require maintenance that won't be free either.
  • Desirable land remains scarce. AI won't magically quadruple the area of New York or Tokyo, or give Afghanistan access to the sea.
  • Time remains scarce. There are only so many hours in a day, and AI cannot increase the amount of time you have.
  • Most of all, attention is scarce. The internet increased the number of voices clamouring for attention by ten thousand fold. AI will increase it by a thousand million fold, making attention even more scarce and even harder to get.

It levels the playing field between the haves and have nots, under the condition that it is available to everyone.

So that would be, it "levels the playing field" between the haves and the other haves 😒

The have-nots miss out, otherwise they wouldn't be the have-nots.

So-called AI is not a force for levelling the playing field. It is a force to eliminate the need for human creativity and make turn it into a commodity, and to make 99.9% of humanity surplus to requirements. Its not going to eliminate drudge work, or physically dangerous jobs. It will just ensure that there are a thousand desperate people for every job available.

I just hope I live long enough to see every single one of those tech bros who love AI so much get put out of work by their AIs. Why hire a programmer or a sys admin when an AI will do a more consistent job and never ask for days off?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

and how much is post-capitalism

The only thing that is post capitalism is totalitarian dictatorship, mass poverty for most and total opulence for the few. There is nothing about Star Trek that is post capitalism.

Certainly the Federation was post-capitalism and stopped using money before they invented matter replicators.

Not using money is not "post capitalism". As long as you own the product of the replicator and can do with it as you want then it is a capitalist society. Owning things is capitalism. It means you can barter, save, and gain access to resources without an authorities permission.

You have been brainwashed into believing that capitalism is what creates scarcity. That is just wrong.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The only thing that is post capitalism is totalitarian dictatorship, mass poverty for most and total opulence for the few.

All those things have occurred before the invention of capitalism, and they continue to exist under capitalism too. You just need to look at the United States to see extreme poverty and opulence side by side.

Owning things is capitalism.

Are you smoking crack? High on fentanyl? Owning personal property is not "capitalism".

Owning things goes back to Ugg the cave man, who had his own rawhide shirt that he and he alone wore.

Capitalism is an economic system where individuals, the capitalists, own the means of production rather than the people who actually use it to create things. A blacksmith who owns his forge is not a capitalist. A man who owns a forge and hires a blacksmith for wages is.

Capitalism does not exist without capital, and developed as an economic system from mercantilism, during the 16th to 18th centuries.

Post-capitalist systems could include things as basic as worker cooperatives, where the factory is owned by the workers, or something as hypothetical and pie-in-the-sky as Star Trek's post-scarcity, money-less imaginary world. There is a good argument that we're already living in a post-capital world, at least in the west, where so-called "financial capitalism" has taken over from industrial capitalism. Since financial capitalism has little to do with actual capital, the name is a misnomer and is best considered a particularly toxic form of post-capitalism where the power has moved from governments and capitalists to bankers and financial traders who get rich, not from making things, but from financial speculation.

We've been taken over by the financial speculators who get rich from closing down factories, not from making things. And this is why the entire western world, some 35 countries or more, cannot make as many artillery shells in a year as Russia can make in a month. But I digress.

There is nothing about Star Trek that is post capitalism.

Have you even watched Star Trek?

Especially Next Generation, where Gene Roddenberry was explicit about the Federation moving past such petty concerns as money and capitalism, and contrasted them with the hyper-capitalist Ferengi, who were intended to be the Big Bad but were drawn too comically for audiences to take them seriously as a threat.

You have been brainwashed into believing that capitalism is what creates scarcity.

I don't believe capitalism creates scarcity.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Capitalism is an economic system where individuals, the capitalists, own the means of production

Because they built or bought them. Their right to own the things they build and by extention barter with their property IS capitalism.

The twisted, perverted Marxist take on that which you have been brainwashed with to facilitate the destruction of western countries is not "the real capitalism". The core concept is private property and freedom. Everything else flows from that.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Post-capitalist systems could include things as basic as worker cooperatives,

Wrong. You can have a cooperative under capitalism.

You CAN'T have a cooperative under socialism or communism because the workers are not allowed to own their own buisness. The "society" owns it collectively which in effect means that the few people who control that society own all of it.

Under socialism the government can seize any buisness no matter how small or big, from farms to monopolies. They do it "for the greater good" which is nothing more than propaganda.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because they built or bought them.

Or inherited it, or stole it, or won it in a bet, or bribed the government to seize it and sell it for 1% of its actual value, or leased it from a bank that actually owns it, or from a king or the state.

Their right to own the things they build and by extention barter with their property IS capitalism.

No it isn't. That is property rights which existed for thousands of years before capitalism was invented, or Adam Smith was a gleam in his daddy's eye.

Not only aren't property rights the same as capitalism, but capitalism doesn't even require universal property rights. You could have a neo-capitalist system almost identical to today's system where everything is owned by the State, or a king, and given a long-term lease to the capitalists who run the factories.

Why do you think the WEF's dream is to move to a system where ordinary people like you and I will no longer own anything? Even Marx and Lenin allowed individuals to keep their personal property (things like a tradesman's tools, or your own clothes, or your toothbrush). The ultimate aim of 21st century capitalism is to move everything to a subscription model where we own nothing but rent it from the companies who own everything.

Why sell a toothbrush for $3 when you can charge 99 cents a month for access to iTooth brushing service? As soon as they figure out a way to offer toothbrushing as a service over the internet, you better believe they will try to convince people its better to pay a monthly subscription than a one-off cost to own your own toothbrush.

The core concept is private property and freedom.

Capitalism doesn't require "freedom" for everyone, in fact it thrives on slavery and near-slavery. German capitalists were happy to use slave labour provided by the Wehrmacht during WW2, by 1945 a full 25% of the German workforce were literal slaves working for capitalist corporations like Bayer and Volkswagon.

Or the US and prison labour. The US uses the prison system as a source of cheap unfree labour. They don't even try to hide it, they're proud of it.

Capitalists love to take away freedom from others. Their ideal world would be one where their workforce are slaves, or near slaves, and they have a monopoly on a product which all consumers must have and would be willing to pay any price to get.

you have been brainwashed

😂

You have no idea what capitalism is, you think it is the sanitised cartoon version is "capitalism", your attitude towards the realities of capitalism is 🙈 🙉 🙊 even when the capitalists tell you explicitly that you will own nothing and be happy and you think it is me that has been brainwashed.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Or inherited it, or stole it, or won it in a bet

Inherited is the same as built because if your father built it and handed it down to you that is functionally the same. No one stole their business, that is some contrived leftist bullshit. If someone won it in a bet, that is equally inconsequentially rare. So if you have to resort to this kind of "hur dur this exception disproves the rule" bullshit you already lost the argument. You are no longer trying to have a good faith argument. You lost and are desperately trying to save face with any nonsense you can pretend is an argument.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if your father built it and handed it down to you that is functionally the same.

"I worked hard for my business empire!"

"No you didn't son, you spent all your time screwing hookers and losing money at the casino while getting rich off investments you could only afford because of the business empire I built."

The bottom line here is that you have no idea what capitalism actually is, or how it developed after the 16th century, but you fetishise it as "Capitalism Good". Capitalism isn't trade, it has nothing to do with the free market (you should read what Adam Smith has to say), and it is especially nothing to do with ownership of personal property.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Do you have any idea how to transition from a globalist capitalism economic system that requires constant economic growth to satisfy the insatiable greed of the elites to a post-scarcity world?

Empower people with technology. That's literally it. Empower people to become independent of that system.

How precisely is it supposed to usher in that transition?

It empowers people.

So that would be, it "levels the playing field" between the haves and the other haves 😒

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. It always kills the good and you end up with shit. As long as AI is publicly available the "other haves" will account for 90% of the world. That's pretty fucking good.

So-called AI is not a force for levelling the playing field

It absolutely is. This is a very ignorant statement. I hope you figure that out soon.

It is a force to eliminate the need for human creativity and make turn it into a commodity,

Nope. It augments human creativity. It amplifies it.

Its not going to eliminate drudge work, or physically dangerous jobs.

It will greatly reduce both. If frees up manpower to solve those problems. It empowers everyone to contribute to the solutions. Anyone with an idea will be able to create 3d renderings of their solution, test it, iterate on it, and have it produced in China. Currently only some tiny fraction, of a fraction of people are legitimately capable of doing that.

OSHA, regulations and job safety improve when society becomes prosperous. AI will greatly improve productivity which greatly improves prosperity.

and to make 99.9% of humanity surplus to requirements.

It will free up 99.9% of humanity to do whatever they want. That means overthrowing the kleptocrats. Therefore the kleptocrats won't sit on mountains of gold and allow for high unemployment. If they could allow for things to get worse than they already are then things would already be worse. They monitor everything you do and know exactly how far they can push everyone before there is a revolution.

Why hire a programmer or a sys admin when an AI will do a more consistent job and never ask for days off.

Right now only the wealthy can afford to pay a programmer. I asked on Reddit how much I can expect to pay someone to build a basic website where my family can build a family tree. I got quotes of $10k and dozens of people bullshitting me with shit like "it's not simple". Meanwhile there is already free software available to do it and anyone with any experience building a website should be able to do it in an hour. It is not just the wealthy who are greedy fucks. Everyone is.

That is why any tool that empowers everyone is a godsend.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I asked on Reddit how much I can expect to pay someone to build a basic website where my family can build a family tree. I got quotes of $10k and dozens of people bullshitting me with shit like "it's not simple". Meanwhile there is already free software available to do it and anyone with any experience building a website should be able to do it in an hour.

Ah yes, everything is easy for the person who doesn't have to do the work 🙄

"a basic website where my family can build a family tree." -- dude that sort of dynamic web application is not in the same galaxy as a "basic website". The webtrees open source genealogy web app is about 80 thousand lines of PHP code, plus dozens of assorted other files (javascript, CSS, icons, etc). So something a quarter as complete and functional as Webtrees would be about 20 thousand lines of code. "Basic website" my ass.

A good professional developer averages about 10 lines of thoroughly tested, debugged and documented code per day. That number comes from the days of Algol programming, so let's say that PHP coders are ten times more productive. (They're not, but let's pretend they are.) So to build your "basic website" would take around 200 days work. Let's say you hire a rockstar who is five times more productive than the average PHP dev (dream on), and he can do it in 40 eight hour days, and he only charges $30 an hour (yeah right). There's almost $10K right there.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

🤣🤣🤣 you must be a dev with bullshit like that.

Webtrees is already built. No one ever said I was looking for a comparable program written from scratch. Strawman bullshit.

You all use the same retarded arguments. When I say "simple" you pretend I am saying that I want some complicated thing and only think that it is simple, then go on to discribe how that complicated thing is not simple. That's so stupid. When I say simple I mean don't put in all that complicated bullshit.

You can make it simple if you want. Stop lying. Stop adding shit that I never asked for to make up an argument for why it is complicated.

It is literally buttons that can be aranged into row and colums according to relationship, and hyperlinking to a text file with more info about the person. Fuckn simple.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No one ever said I was looking for a comparable program written from scratch.

Er, you said you asked how much it would cost to "build a basic website where my family can build a family tree", not "how much to install Webtrees and all its dependencies on a web server I already have".

It is literally buttons that can be aranged into row and colums according to relationship, and hyperlinking to a text file with more info about the person. Fuckn simple.

As I said, everything is simple to the clown who doesn't have to do it. If it's so "fuckn simple" why don't you program it yourself? Then you'll learn just how simple it really is.

By the way, "buttons that can be aranged into row and colums according to relationship, and hyperlinking to a text file" does not come even close to describing a genealogy program, not even a simple one. Have you never even seen a family tree? Relationships can be complicated but even when they're not complicated it's still a tree not a grid of rows and columns. Sheesh.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Er, you said you asked how much it would cost to "build a basic website where my family can build a family tree", not "how much to install Webtrees and all its dependencies on a web server I already have".

Once again, read this over and over until you understand: I am not looking for a program comparable to webtrees.

Your response indicates you don't understand what that means and I don't know how to explain it to you. Just read it over and over until you understand why the response you posted is nonsensical.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't know how to explain it to you.

That's because you don't have a clue what you want. You don't want a ready-made solution (Webtrees), you don't want a custom-made solution because its too expensive, you want something that allows people to go to a website and record family trees and genealogies (ie a genealogy program) without it being a genealogy program. That's like saying you want something where you can roast and bake food but not an oven. Or somewhere you can stand under a shower of water to wash but not a shower or a camp-shower.

You have zero understanding what is involved in building a dynamic website, zero clue about what sort of features you want, and yet you are sure that its just an hour's work.

I reckon a consultant web application developer would need to spend about 4 or 5 hours with you just to nut out the core functional requirements, and even then, you'll end up changing your mind once you start using it.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

does not come even close to describing a genealogy program,

No shit shirlock. And I keep telling you I never asked anyone for a geneology program. You just keep talking as if I had.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How precisely is it supposed to usher in that transition?

It empowers people.

That answer is the very opposite of "precisely". "Empower" is an airy-fairy buzzword that means nothing practical, much beloved by marketroids and hippies.

It is a force to eliminate the need for human creativity and make turn it into a commodity,

Nope. It augments human creativity. It amplifies it.

Dude. Dude. Think. The whole point of AI is that you don't need humans to be creative. You want a poem? You don't need to hire a poet, you just say to Bard or ChatGTP "write me a poem". You want a movie script? You don't need writers.

This first generation of AI is not very creative. But give it ten years and pretty much all forms of written creative works will be decimated. Robots will be doing the art, and people will be doing the messy, dangerous, ugly work that robots can't do.

Anyone with an idea will be able to create 3d renderings of their solution, test it, iterate on it, and have it produced in China.

And China is making these things for free, is it? How do you pay for it when your income is gone because your job has been replaced by a bot?

It will free up 99.9% of humanity to do whatever they want. That means overthrowing the kleptocrats.

The kleptocrats will be the only ones able to afford police and soldiers. 99.9% of people "freed up" (out of work) will only be able to throw stones and die.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The kleptocrats will be the only ones able to afford police and soldiers.

😄 sounds like a lot of paychecks to me. How many will they need to hire to keep the entire population controlled?

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is Midjourney. Same prompt. Hopefully they don't start collaborating with their agendas the way all the social media companies do.

[–]youfuckingtwat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Midjourney 4 is brilliant, the best I've seen for lifelike renderings. On Facebook, Alex Grekov has posted Midjourney 4's assistance with an illustration of Star Wars as though it were designed by Akira Kurosawa in 1982. (The images will appear when you search those terms.)

[–]ShoahKahn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Depends on you prompt. Try leading the prompt with something like "photorealistic" or "[insert movie] aesthetic", "documentary style"... Something like that. Also, the overall theme of a image can dictate its realism -- e.g., if you prompt for specific people or characters, the algorithm will trawl for associated images, and if there are fewer non-cartoon-y images of whatever the subject is, the more likely it will be that the creations turn out unrealistic.

I made this at time of posting (two doggo rejections before the re-roll stuck), and the prompt used is from a week or so ago:

https://i.imgur.com/5bE7muC.jpg

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I guess men have different ideas about what a trad wife means

[–]CheeseWizard 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The AI is so used to being asked to make sexy characters that it is no longer needed to ask for the character to be sexy, the AI just assumes the giant badoongas are a given.

[–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well shit, it might be becoming aware after all!!!

[–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Prompt was young woman dancing in a field of sunflowers.

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    [–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I wonder what your line of work is...

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      He likely did add that as well

      [–]youfuckingtwat 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      My Bing search for those terms only locates actual women dancing in fields of sunflowers.