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[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Why do I feel which way, specifically are you asking about.

I feel like this site is full of liars and bigoted hate because I look at the submissions and comments

I feel like it's admins must also be liars and bigots because they set the bar, determine the culture, and choose administrators who appeal to them, and as a result they made a site used for stochastic terrorism and holocaust denial.

[–]Evola 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Where's the lies?

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Are you kidding me man. The top post on the homepage is a speculative lie that some deepstate used health policy against the prior president. There are so many ways to check whether or not that's true, but people aren't here to do that, they're here to partake and enjoy a speculative lie which they experience as a fictional internet narrative. It doesn't need have any grounding in truth, which is why people are so averse to checking any fact about it, they simple enjoy it as an fun internet narrative rather than true thing about the world.

The second post on the homepage right now is in support of an antimedicine lie which works to convince saidit users not to trust qualified licensed medical professionals. That's such an insidious and personal attack against saiditors. Have you been in an emergency room with a sick or injured child? Such a personal and sacred thing, and saidit posters want to infect that moment with distrust and anti-scientific conspiracy thinking.

The third post on the homepage is about a link which is down and the fourth post is this. Neither are lies.

Here's a lie chipit told because he wanted to defend the literal 1940s German Nazi camps.

https://saidit.net/s/history/comments/a9e3/think_the_nazis_invented_the_concentration_camp/10v6c

Here's a series of lies which are based on russian propaganda and designed to excuse their ongoing genocide and mass torture, rape and deportations.

https://saidit.net/s/Antiwar/comments/a965/make_no_mistake_war_hawk_american_policy_helped/10urv?context=3

Here's another lie designed to make saiditors distrust their qualified licensed medical professionals.

https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comments/a96f/who_proposals_could_strip_nations_of_their/10uq3?context=3

Here's a lie about American domestic politics which serves to further radicalise the terrorists

https://saidit.net/s/politics/comments/a8qr/reminder_democrat_pacs_have_a_history_of_staging/10tqw?context=3

Here's a lie which takes the results of a scientific study and pretends the researchers found the opposite. The result serves to further radicalise the terrorists and apologise for the ongoing ruzzian genocide and mass rape, torture and deportations

https://saidit.net/s/MediaAnalysis/comments/a8ou/media_admits_lying_about_russiagate/10thr?context=3

Every single one of those links is a lie told WITHIN THE PAST WEEK

[–]Evola 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Well take it to those threads then. Also the holocaust never happened.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Okay but a minute ago you were confused why I felt that way and wondered where the lies were.

Do you now agree with me that saidit has a problem with false information?

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Who gets to decide what's "false information"?

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You've replied to me three times dipshit. I'm not writing three messages to you. I don't know why you allowed yourself to write three separate messages to me, but I'm not writing three back at you.

Who gets to decide what's "false information

Click on the links right there dipshit, in the comment chain of this ^ reply. It's a fucking factual statement of fact that a conservative group is not a "democrat PAC". Don't give me that "well who determines" bullshit. If someone points at a conservative money raising group and says "that's a democrat PAC" then they're lying.

Likewise if you and I both listen to the same audio recording on YouTube in which a man says that he met a nurse called Olga who is full of shit and believes XYZ. Then you and I read an article, where the author says "the man in the video believes XYZ", then the author is lying. Don't give me that "who decides" shit, we can both listen to the story of the nurse - if you think nobody gets to decide whether the man, or the nurse, believe XYZ then you're criminally fucking insane.

This is gaslighting level insane

This is pissing on my leg and telling me it's raining level of insane. There's something wrong with you, if you think: "there's no way to decide the truth. Am I pissing on his leg? Is it just localised rain coming from tiny clouds round my dick?" No, you complete dipshit, you can stick your "who decides" up your dipshit ass

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I didn't even read those links. Because I've kind of stopped caring, the government is hopelessly corrupt and everyone believes ridiculous things. And I myself have seen plenty of laughable posts on saidit. But I know how dangerous and wrong it is to give someone the authority to decide what's true or not. First of all, it often backfires because of the Streisand effect. And second, anyone with that much power can do literally whatever they want, and wipe all the records clean and rewrite history. The USSR went so far as to edit useful idiots out of photographs once they were no longer useful. Those people weren't just executed or sent to the gulag, they never existed, and anyone who said otherwise was "spreading misinformation" and was an enemy of the state. You can't just trust people with power, because as bitter a truth as it is, humans are inherently evil and selfish and greedy. Even if they were good, the evil ones still always end up at the top because they're the ones who want power the most.

No one is forcing you to use saidit, so you have no right to destroy it. That you want to shows that you're intolerant.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But I know how dangerous and wrong it is to give someone the authority to decide what's true or not

Piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

Are you a fucking moron. One plus one equals two. It's not dangerous or wrong for someone to have to authoritatively tell you that one plus one equals two

  • you could check it yourself with a calculator

  • you could ask other people what one plus one comes to

  • you could learn more about the topic until you understand why one plus one equals two

It's not dangerous or wrong for someone to authoritatively tell you that one plus one equals two. What a moronic thing to say.

I have just told you that one plus one equals two and given links to why and you replied

I dont know what one plus one equals. Because I've kind of stopped caring, the government is hopelessly corrupt and everyone believes ridiculous things. And I myself have seen plenty of laughable posts

That's moronic.

you have no right to destroy it

Drama queen. What are you captain america stopping thanos. What kind of destruction do you imagine I'm doing in that tiny distrustful head of yours

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not dangerous or wrong for someone to authoritatively tell you that one plus one equals two.

Showing me why I'm wrong is exactly what they should do. What is wrong is for them to silence or even punish me for daring to defy them. Which is what they do, they just insult you, ban you, and not even tell you why you're wrong. It just convinces you even more of your conspiracy theory, but they don't care because they think you're a worthless irredeemable person, and they tell you, "you should kill yourself now, and give somebody else a piece of that oxygen!".

And these political controversies are much more subjective than 1+1, so that's a faulty comparison. Plus, banning "wrong math" would result in "Jeffy's Homework" getting banned. Even with something that simple we already have a censorship problem.

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

jews with money for the most part.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Half of the people that anti-semites claim are Jewish turn out not to be. And Donald Trump is more Zionist than most Jews in his country.

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So Jews aren't the boogeymen you think they are.

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No it has a problem with people like you not providing actual arguments and evidence to disprove the claims shown.

If there is false information don't you have a responsibility to disprove it without having to use rhetorical fallacies?

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh you mean, like, in any of these five links I already shared in the last week alone? You mean doing something like what you would see if you opened any of those five links I gave from the last week. Yeah I tried that. What do you think people say when you use evidence and facts to disprove their false information. Go ahead and click any of the five links I shared which are all from just this week

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They probably just call you a faggot.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The admins didn't determine the culture, and that's the whole point.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

And first of all, you are being bigoted and hateful right now by not tolerating others who are different from you.

Secondly, the whole reason why people are becoming so bigoted and hateful is because radical communist SJWs are giving them a reason to be. When they see things like BLM burning down whole cities, most people don't think about things too hard, so naturally they begin to wonder, "oh wow, maybe black people really are a bunch of violent thugs!". Even though BLM doesn't actually represent black people, most people don't think that far, especially when the media agrees with such unfounded assumptions.

It's exactly the same for all the LGBT stuff. Those who hate them used to be a fringe minority. But now after all this "queer" and "gender theory" nonsense came in, and it became the woke olympics and they started defending criminals and pedophiles because it's not woke enough to think that anyone but "cishets" can do wrong, people fear and despise them because they think that's how gay and trans people act. And the woke media fucking feeds into it! I fucking get called transphobic for having gender dysphoria. Yes it's that bad, they've gone full circle. And then they wonder why everyone has iffy feelings about LGB and T. Plus, there's something called the Streisand effect, where a view is silenced and that attracts people to it, because why would they silence it if they weren't hiding something? So when you force religious people to serve gay weddings, naturally they're going to feel attacked and think there's a gay conspiracy. I'm not defending it, but it's not hard to see why they think these things.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Imagine if I wrote a whole effortpost back at you saying this

The reason anyone is doing what you call "burning down cities" is because of the rise of hateful voices in politics and radicalised right-wing echo chambers

Do you think that paragraph would convince you? No. I don't either. That's why I have never written such pithy bullshit to you nor anyone else. So save it. If you have any argument which you wouldn't believe if I just swapped the nouns, then save it.

Dems are bad

Swap the nouns

Conservatives are bad

If the latter wouldn't convince you then don't try the former on me.

Then you wrote a whole second paragraph about your homophobias and fragility. I honestly don't know what to say about it. You wrote out this massive paragraph about your phobias and fragility. Okay buddy - no, incase you're wondering, I wasn't convinced by that big paragraph of your gender fragility and phobias.

And first of all, you are being bigoted and hateful right now by not tolerating others who are different from you.

Who? Where? What intolerance? Did I ban someone? Have I silenced someone? Are you so fragile you can't deal with a dissenting reply without this drama queen post of fears and fragility

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The reason anyone is doing what you call "burning down cities" is because of the rise of hateful voices in politics and radicalised right-wing echo chambers

But those weren't significant before these incidents. 3 years ago I knew no racist conservatives, and it was even rare on sites like saidit and ruqqus. The leftist media just thought you had to hate one race or the other, so if you weren't anti-white then you must be anti-black, even though 99.9% of people were not. That's literally what their logic was. But boy did the rioting feed into racist narratives.

Then you wrote a whole second paragraph about your homophobias and fragility. I honestly don't know what to say about it. You wrote out this massive paragraph about your phobias and fragility. Okay buddy - no, incase you're wondering, I wasn't convinced by that big paragraph of your gender fragility and phobias.

See this is exactly what I'm talking about. I have not said anything negative whatsoever about people who aren't straight, in fact I've debunked the "anti-gay" Bible verses numerous times, and I literally have gender dysphoria myself. Yet you call me homophobic and transphobic for refusing to believe negative and harmful stereotypes about them.

Who? Where? What intolerance? Did I ban someone? Have I silenced someone? Are you so fragile you can't deal with a dissenting reply without this drama queen post of fears and fragility

You just said you think all of us should be banned.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

3 years ago I knew no racist conservatives

You're fucking trolling me

See this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Bruh you - completely out of the blue, apropos of nothing - decided to unload a ton of your gender phobias onto me. Uncalled for. I don't want to read a paragraph of your fragile gender phobia. It's actually a form of abuse.for you to unload that on me then gaslight me into thinking I'm doing "exactly what you were talking about" by telling you to stick it. I don't want to hear your opinion about other peoples' lifestyles. I didn't ask it and I'm not unloading my opinion onto you.

You just said you think all of us should be banned

Oh and did me saying my opinion make you feel fragile? Poor baby

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Are you actually casually invalidating the lived experience of u/Vulptex, you awful cishet bigot, that's literally genocide.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nope, leftists were always the racists because they're the ones who believed we should distinguish and judge people based on skin color. Conservatives got called "racist" for thinking skin color shouldn't matter and that we're all just people, literally the opposite of racism. But since BLM showed themselves to be violent criminals, and the media praised "black people" for it, now a small number of conservatives are starting to have racist beliefs. However, where I noticed much bigger shifts was in their attitudes about LGB and T people, a return to patriarchy, and especially how big they think the government should be and their feelings about individual freedom vs. collectivism. They're completely unrecognizable now. They used to hate fascism and point out all the similarities the left has with it, but now they're flocking to it. I grew up around these people, I was one of them before the George Floyd thing flew them way off course, so you do not get to tell me how they were and are. They did not and had zero reason to dislike black people. They did not put people into boxes and identity groups based on traits like skin color, the way leftists did (and still do). But apparently you're supposed to think black people are superior, which is just reverse racism. Of course they're both rewriting the history on this now, so soon the evidence will be scarce. But I'm not the only one who remembers how it really happened.

Please tell me how I have "gender phobias". Because you never did, because I never said anything transphobic. Do you think I'm phobic against myself? You should not be able to shut someone down just by calling them "transphobic", whether they truly are or not. Meanwhile you just agreed with the transphobic view that gender transition is a "lifestyle". It took all that time to debunk those notions, and now you're just going to go full circle? And for what?

Oh and did me saying my opinion make you feel fragile? Poor baby

Stop shifting the goalposts. I wrote that to point out that you contradicted yourself and you know it.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Again you think it's appropriate to unload a wall of fragility and phobias. Stick them up your ass

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not minority-phobic and you have no evidence to say that I am, other than the fact that I disagree with other, completely unrelated opinions of yours.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a qualifier you added, not me