What happens when trans kids are prevented from transitioning?

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[–]agent_pecan 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They grow out of their dumbass phase

[–]ID10T 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Fuck these people. You have to be such a sick fuck to promote the mutilation of children. I swear the future will judge this shit worse than the lobotomy trend in the early twentieth century.

[–]weavilsatemyface 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Nobody is transitioning children!"

"Well okay, they are, but only top surgery, never bottom surgery."

"Okay, so bottom surgery as well. But only because they really need it or they will commit suicide."

"Okay, maybe not actually commit suicide, but they will be sad."

Support the permanent medical mutilation of children, or they will be sad!

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was what would now be called a trans kid and yes life is hard when you don't fit in.

But not as hard has having to be a permanent medical victim and having to maintain a constant level of self hate to justify access to treatment you need.

Accepting yourself and your body is much better, because when people don't accept them you can just think "fuck you" and not have anything else to worry about.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It turns out that some people are transsexual, and the best treatment is to let them live according to how they perceive themselves.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Any evidence for that?

Or do you think that feeling you are being kind is more important that actual good outcomes?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, there's heaps of evidence for that.

It drops the death by suicide and depression, which by itself is sufficient. But it also is strongly related to resolving other mental health issues.

There's dozens of papers on this now. here's a few:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/article-abstract/2789433

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/2749479

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0261039

Or do you think that feeling you are being kind is more important that actual good outcomes?

Certainly not. Better physical and psychological health outcomes should determine the treatment.

[–]ID10T 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure what's your point?

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am willing to accept that, just maybe, some adults with certain forms of mental illness are best treated by surgery and drugs to transition from one sex to the other. In the same way I will accept that maybe the least-worst way to treat some people is to amputate healthy limbs.

But we're talking about adults who have already tried everything else, or at least are going into this with their eyes open. We can support the right of adults to fuck themselves up so long as they aren't hurting others.

Pushing this transgender ideology onto non-conforming kids (tomboys, gays, lesbians, children who are confused by puberty, suffering from anxieties, autistic kids, etc) is not medical care. It is medical abuse.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pushing this transgender ideology onto non-conforming kids (tomboys, gays, lesbians, children who are confused by puberty, suffering from anxieties, autistic kids, etc) is not medical care. It is medical abuse.

Do you have any case studies of this abuse?

[–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

93% grow out of it.

The rest have gender dysphoria but are gay so if they can accept that fact there are ways in their communities to deal with that without surgery. Unfortunately a lot of HSTS want to transition because they are homophobic and obsessed with having a straight partner, which is never going to happen.