What are your arguments against "clitorises are small penises and penises are large clitorises"?

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According to this comic: https://archive.is/qwp98

And this conversation I had with a random stranger: https://imgur.com/a/TzsAQWy

"Clitorises and penises are the same things" ...

People on so-called feminist spaces weren't of any help. Someone told me "it is accurate to say penises are large clitorises" and "clitorises are small penises", and so "women have a penis" and "men have a clitoris"

TRAs use "clitorises are small penises" and "penises are large clitorises" to claim men have clitorises and women have penises, that what TIMs have is a large clitoris, as well as a penis, for instance: https://medium.com/@transphilosophr/what-is-girldick-9363515e0bfd

What are your arguments against the claim?

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[–]jet199Instigatrix 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It's bullshit.

Women don't piss out of their clits.

It's a completely different organ with a completely different function and structure.

[–]AXXA👁⃤웃 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

your answer is much more direct than mine

[–]Amezitu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are basically the same organ except the penis has an additional function. They are homologous.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nope.

The fact there is a urethra and ligament in a penis is clearly not homologous to a clitorus.

Most apes actually have a bone in their dicks.

It is a different organ with a completely different function.

[–]Amezitu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You musn't know what homologues means then. They are made up from the exact same tissue and simply take different forms. The penis doesn't have "different" functions, it has additional functions.

[–]AXXA👁⃤웃 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

cats kind of are small dogs

cats aren't dogs

[–]YallHoes[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

What does "kind of" mean in the sentence? Doesn't "cats kind of are small dogs" mean "cats are dogs"?

[–]AXXA👁⃤웃 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

in this context "kind of" means there's some similarity between a cat and a small dog

skateboards kind of are small cars

skateboards aren't cars

[–]YallHoes[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

English is weird

[–]AXXA👁⃤웃 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

indubitably

[–]TiwakingMy Pronouns are Nigger and Boss Nigger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

AXXA👁⃤웃 3 insightful - 1 fun - 3 hours ago indubitably

Cromulent

[–]steveknobs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i think that we should get a second opinion from mr fleece johnson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMT1eeaSjLs

[–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If "it is accurate to say penises kind of are large clitorises" and "clitorises kind of are small penises," it is equally accurate to say that mahogany trees kind of are different looking cedars and cedars kind of are different looking mahogany trees. Now go and try to grow cedars in a mahogany forest or mahogany trees in a cedar forest.

People's desperation to use what they think is "science" to reach conclusions which are naturally impossible (science is the study of nature) continues apace...

[–]Rah 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I totally agree, so lets ban circuncision because its akin to female genital mutilation, but on boys.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do they cut your penis off?

[–]Rah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh thank God no. Im just doing a service to my burger frens.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Banning circumcision is anti-Semitic.

[–]TiwakingMy Pronouns are Nigger and Boss Nigger 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What are your arguments against the claim?

Brother, get the Flamer! The Heavy Flamer!

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can not say they "are" because they quite literally are not. You can say they "are like" and then give the similarities. The statement as written is simply wrong.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

well a doctor saying "kind of" is not really professional, not then worth discussing

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is one of those subjects I have never pondered and will pretty much ignore and forget shortly after I have posted this comment.