What men don't know: Women AREN'T men. Our perspective is different from yours. And, not all women are the same!

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[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

Even though I think there is plenty of good advice in the post, your comment actually brings up good questions about society at large.

[–]Dragonerne 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

MRA's have valid points if you agree that men and women should be equal. Equality is however a lie and men can never be equal to women because we are not the same. Women are not men and men are not women.
MRA's are men that were sold a lie and whine about not being treated equally in a society filled with double standards designed to favor women. These double standards are only a problem if you are an egalitarian and society isn't egalitarian, nor are women. This is why MRAs are despised as sexist etc.

MGTOWs likewise have good points but their solution is not a solution. Our enemies have created a system to lower our birthrates; going MGTOW in protest is only doing exactly what they want us to do. If the system is unfair, you take it like a man and defeat your enemy so that you can implement a new one. The movie Mulan is unironically a great example of this and MGTOWs should take a lesson. Going MGTOW is surrendering without a fight.

This woman is both beautiful and she is MRA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un09DRXZt2U

I will not recommend going down the MRA rabbithole because it is not helpful. Society wont change and women wont change; it's better to accept nature and do your best in the environment that you live in.

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    [–]SaidOverRed 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    This is the most red pill statement I've read in weeks.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    MRA? MGTOW? I have never seen these before now. Edit: I should say, that for all of my opinions, I live by that last bit in your comment. I may like seeing change, but I'm fine where I live. It's crazy and confusing, but I live here.

    [–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    MRA is the idea that men and women ought to be treated the same and have the same legal rights.

    MGTOW is the idea that men don't owe women anything. They use terms like "divorce-rape" which is women marrying rich men then divorcing them for 50% of the wealth of the man including any access to his children because the legal system is stupid in many places in the world. They rather not interact with women at all because of the hostile laws. Surrendering is however not an option even if getting divorce-raped is not nice.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks for telling me new things.

    [–]Comatoast 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    We (as men and women) can be appreciated by the opposite sex for our differences as well as commonalities though.

    One can advocate for the safety and rights for both sexes. There's so much more that goes into it all though than just simply saying that.

    [–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Yes, I agree. But if you give men the false idea that men and women ought to be treated equally or even worse that men and women are treated equally, then you're harming men a lot because neither society nor women will adhere to this which will create a victimhood in the men because they have been taught to expect equal treatment by society, which is not something society can ever give them nor should men want that.

    The dynamics between men and women are not the same and hence if you create a system based on the idea that they are the same, then the system will be inherently unequal by design. Now you will not often see me defending blacks on here but the inferior race of men will be extra harmed by this system designed on the basis of "same-ness" as can be seen in the prison system which is predominantly black men.
    And again, you will rarely if ever see me defending the concept of white privilege or the concept white supremacy but equality between the sexes is in and of itself a structure that upholds white supremacy in society, because even if oldschool feminism hurts white men, it hurts non-white men even more.

    [–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    There's a lot of nuances with everything. I've watched my 6 figure a year uncle be a piece of shit to his son, while refusing to pay child support to my aunt after she left him (he was verbally abusive to his son, and she caught him in bed several times with other women). He managed to have enough sway to fuck her over time after time in courts. Meanwhile, a friend of mine had a daughter whose mother was schizophrenic and negligent. She would leave the daughter for the entire day with the same diaper on, him coming home to find the baby that way while he was stuck at work. He took her to court to get custody and she lied about some weirdo shit to make him look like a creep, and she won custody. He ended up getting his daughter back but it was technically through his parents. The legal system is so fucked up and there are seemingly biases in every courtroom.

    As far as the rest, we'll agree to feel the way that each of us feel about it. Everything is a morbidly obese gray area.

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You're describing the unequal dynamics of social relationships between men and women. Laws that treat each individual as equals when they're unequals in the relationship are inherently discriminatory.

    [–]Aureus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Based.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I wouldn't call her anywhere near beautiful, although she seems to have nice eyes under all that makeup. She's OK looks-wise, I guess. Unless you're from Australia? Australian women have got to be on average the fugliest of the White world. At least they keep slim though. Anyway, this shouldn't be about how she looks, and yes she does make some very good points. She's easy to listen to as well, so I think she's on the right track with that yt channel, too.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I wouldn't call her anywhere near beautiful

    Mind sharing pictures of a beautiful woman then? I am surprised you don't find her beautiful.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Come visit Montréal someday during the springtime or summer, your jaw will drop to the floor. And stay there.