One third of Democrats will vote for Kennedy if he runs as Independent …

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[–]IkeConn 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

The DNC is fucking stupid. Bernie was a winner and RFK, Jr. woud be a winner. Instead they will get Trump. I love shadenfreude.

[–]ActuallyNot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Bernie was a winner

Yeah, probably.

and RFK, Jr. woud be a winner.

Nah. He's an anti-vax and health related conspiracy theory quack. His appeal is very niche.

[–]cunninglingus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

RFK, Jr.

And receives significant funding from Republicans (who want him to get votes otherwise intended for Biden). According to the Rasmussen polls: he's a legitimate danger to Biden's campaign.

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Bernie, RFK and Trump all love jews

RFK has said he's the most pro jewish candidate

[–]Barcodetilter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What exactly do you expect any U.S. president to do about the jews?

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1) Don't be pro Israel
2) Don't brag about being the most pro jewish candidate
3) Don't have the majority of your cabinet be jews
4) Remove jews from any positions of power in the military
5) Stop the federal reserve. Let the government print the money, not a private jewish entity
6) Stop usury
7) Remove jews from political power
8) Seize the assets of the banks
9) Remove jewish power from the justice system
10) Seize the press like Lincoln did
11) Sanction any nation that helps the jews
12) Remove jewish citizenship from the US

[–]at_finn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Muh jews

[–]EthnocratIndependent 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Trump will accelerate the collapse of GAE, so I support him 100%.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

The Google App Engine?

Surely there's bigger fish to fry.

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    [–]EthnocratIndependent 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Global American Empire.

    [–]cunninglingus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Complaints in North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, and all over the world against the US are that the US is "imperial", or heading a global American empire. One rarely hears that in the US, unless of course you're brainwashed by Twitter's Russian disinformation campaign (which is massive). ALL powerful countries use their power to influence their trading partners. China's the worst. You probably don't understand this, but you are repeating the disinformation about the US, as if you worked for Russia, or North Korea, or Iran, or China, or for any other group working against the US. Those are the folks who want Trump re-elected and are spamming Twitter with anti-democracy disinformation. They're literal traitors to the US. Re-think your approach.

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      [–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Morality is not related to the general discussion here. It's geopolitics for all 1st world countries. The foreign engagements are ways of developing allies who can share in trade benefits. There are also negative impacts.

      [–]EthnocratIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Fuck off with your (((neocon))) bullshit. And yes, white right-wing Americans should be traitors to Jewmerica.

      [–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Fuck off with your (((neocon))) bullshit.

      Wow - now I have evidence that I've been called a NeoCon on Saidit, of all places. Everyone else here will tell you that this is a delusional claim.

      [–]Questionable 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      It seems 2/3rds of Democrats, have no idea what a Democrat is.

      [–]makesyoudownvote 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Does anyone?

      Neither party means anything, they are just two place holders for opposition that attempts to sway a little over half the country.

      Now there are people in charge trying to dictate what that ~50% thinks and often heavily manipulates primaries, but Democrat abd Republican don't actually really mean anything.

      Liberal means something, and that something is definitely not what the modern Democrat party represents.

      Conservative means something, and MAGA Republicans don't really all practice that either.

      A republic and a democracy both have meanings too, but they also have no specific association with the parties of the same name.

      [–]BobOki 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      I find it funny they think their voting in the primaries matters. The right think corporate stooge is already picked for this election, your primary votes are quite meaningless and there is crazy fraud going on too boot. Primaries are run by the party, they are not policed like the actual election, they can do pretty much anything they want. Last election, in case you forgot, started with Bernie at a HUGE lead... then suddenly everything changed, and YOUR OWN PARTY caught themselves engaged in voter fraud, and to save face they had to boot MULTIPLE people in MULTIPLE states for it. The SECOND I saw the current VP running I said: "She will lose horribly then she will be chosen as the VP for whoever they decided would bend the fuck over for the corps... probably Biden." wow.. it was not that hard.

      [–]Hematomato 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Bernie's never been a fraction as popular as he appears.

      Something that political types can't seem to wrap their heads around is that an enthusiastic vote counts for exactly the same as an unenthusiastic vote.

      That was one of their main arguments in favor of 2020 election fraud - "Biden couldn't have won because no one is enthusiastic for him!"

      And it's one of their main arguments that Bernie got cheated - "He was the only one with all the enthusiasm!"

      The thing is, to moderates, Bernie seems crazy. Four years of free college is just astonishingly shitty economic policy, no matter how you slice it. Breaking up the banks is really uncomfortable for any 55-year-old who has their money in the banks.

      So, unenthusiastically, they cast their votes for more moderate candidates, and the Bernie Bros go: "What what WHAT?!!"

      [–]monkeymagic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      not that i care for the guy, but bernie was white hot in my area the first time he ran. we’re talking peak hulkamania level popularity. signs on every lawn. saying he was never really all that popular is pretty insane.

      [–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Bernie was white hot even in my red state. There were MULTIPLE polls done by both trash websites (including right leaning) that had Bernie not just in a lead, but a landslide lead. When the primaries started Bernie was also in a landslide lead... then if you remember, there was "issues", the poll counters stopped for a bit, and then when it was "fixed" Bernie was instead of ahead 35%, behind now... and after that he magically got nearly no votes. After that, the "crazy" coincidence happened, where Biden, who had shit all votes, suddenly started to catapult forward, Biden, who was not even on the radar of ANYONE.

      [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Polling doesn't suggest a third would even back Kennedy in a primary, which he's getting about a seventh. But a lot of the remainder would cast their vote more strategically if he were an independent and his opponent had a history of criminal activity, leveraging the presidential pardon to free his criminal network, attempting to subvert the democratic process, and giving the state rights over the people's wombs.

      [–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Yep

      [–]Gaslov 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      So? If voting mattered they wouldn't let you do it.

      [–]Ehhhhhh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Even if they didn't sway the results however they wanted, no uncontrolled person would even make it into the running.

      Dunno why more people don't realize this.

      [–]DELINQUENTFELON 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      i am running for president

      free trans surgeries

      free money

      free dope

      free rolling papers

      [–]cant_even 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That can't be allowed to stand. They're lining up some floozy right now to "accuse" RFK of 'improprieties'.

      [–]Rah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Title is misleading. "One third of Democrats say they will vote...".

      The moment the whip cracks, discourse will change