FDA BOMBSHELL. - Woman in control of FDA decision is one who gave approval to Oxycontin & Fentanyl. CHRIS SKY

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (41 children)

OxyContin and Fentanyl are extremely useful medications. That guy is confounding legal fentanyl with the illegal stuff contaminating our black market drug supply that's killing everyone, as well as the drug Oxy with its misuse by the pharma companies.

It's like how you don't blame guns for people being killed.

This dude is a total tool, if the neck tat didn't give that away immediately.

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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

    It's a 10% abuse rate skeeter, lets not forget the 90% of people who were prescribed pain meds with no issues.

    [–]JasonCarswell 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    I would prefer the odds of catching COVID. 10% is a lot.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Abuse is a pretty broad term, they don't all become junkies. Taking a couple hydrocodone you had left over from surgery when you have a sore back is technically abusing your medication.

    These medications treat severe pain. They're for accident victims, cancer patients, surgical procedures, and people who have to live with chronic pain for any number of reasons.

    You want these medications available not only for yourself, should you need them, but to prevent other people from needlessly suffering in extreme pain. I have a lot of compassion for addicts and junkies, but we're not saving them from themselves by denying everyone critical medicine. They'll just buy illegal shit and that's where they're more likely to fatally OD.

    My grandfather is 87 with dementia and constant pain fron a broken back. Him becoming addicted to opiates is only a morality issue at this point, and he's being made to suffer in the last years of his life over it.

    Not to mention myself.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree a million percent with all of that.

    They demonize and criminalize the people who suffer, don't offer the solutions necessary (clinics, CBT, better lives, meaning, fulfillment, etc) and they keep people down. It's inherent to the system.

    The "legality" of certain substances and their availability/non-availability is a huge problem - as is the manufacturing and marketing and black marketing of them. I don't think Chris Sky pointing out that she is enmeshed in this corrupt rigged system was wrong.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    It's also been demonstrated that opioid addiction isn't caused by opioids. Addicts are addicts through emotional and psychological mismanagement of their internal states. The drugs are just what they get addicted TO.

    But if you take these people, I am sure you would find they already had some unhealthy obsessions. They were just transferred over to opioids.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Addicts are addicts through emotional and psychological mismanagement of their internal states.

    1000%

    Gabor Maté covers this well.

    It's also why TPTB keep society shitty and their "solutions" for the drug crisis/war are shitty, mismanaged, and underfunded - intentionally. Class war.

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      Most heroin users are occasional users and remain so for years. Yes, it does happen, statistically, over such long periods, that emotional triggers of addiction will arise - no surprises here - and bingo you have an addict.

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        [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

        You've got a very nice voice - sounds like Jeffrey Dean Morgan. If you were more stable and reliable I'd recruit you in a second, if you were interested, to narrate stuff for my LeverMind project. Until I find some smooth crooner like you folks are going to have to listen to my noise.

        [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          We can try it out. It would be better if you could loose the background noise and use a better format than MP3. After Saturday.

          Also, we'll need you to try on some things by my casting couch.

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Less than 10% got hooked, 10% abused it, which is a broad term.

            oxycontin gets people hooked just like heroin gets you hooked.

            It can, but mostly it doesn't. Not everyone is a junkie, most people aren't, and they aren't turned into one magically.

            [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

            Chris Sky is going to be the big draw at my local resistance rally on Saturday.

            What he says doesn't sound wrong to me. And he's on target on most other topics too.

            Where does all the black market stuff come from? Where do many folks get introduced to it? Through "legitimate" means. The soldiers guarded the poppy fields, before they were withdrawn. I wonder if Americans are going to suffer another kind of withdrawal soon.

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            Where does all the black market stuff come from

            The fentanyl is Chinese, until fairly recently you could order it by the kilo on the clear web from China. Cheap too, $4g.

            I can't think of a way that guy isn't an idiot or is deliberately misrepresenting the situation. Oxy and fent are as dangerous as every opiate is although they are more potent than others. There's nothing special about the lady who approved them, anyone would. They're more tools in the toolbox for doctors. How they were marketed and pushed was a problem, but that's being dealt with. The fent deaths aren't fent script deaths. This stuff is potent is very small doses so it's very dangerous when your heroin or coke has fent in it and you don't know it. That has nothing to do with the FDA approval process whatsoever.

            The word STAB comes to mind.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

            ST&BorS does not apply.

            1) He's not a spammer.
            2) He's not a troll.
            3) He's not a bot.
            4) He's not a shill, and you clearly don't know his work enough to accuse him of being one with any certainty.

            Being in error doesn't automatically make you a shill. Shills exhibit a pattern of manipulation, deception, and lies serving an agenda, like the way socks perpetually supports big pharma, SJWs, and authoritarianism.

            You're triggered because 1) you suffer, 2) appreciate those drugs, 3) he's demonizing and threatening the drugs, 4) he's conflating the legit and illegal drug trades, 5) he may be misinformed, and 6) his "bombshell" is a disappointing dud.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            He's a motivational speaker posting garbage clickbait.

            [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            I won't argue with that. He may not be 100% correct all the time, but most critically he's a truth-teller of a higher level about tyranny and Agenda 21, and we need more of them with influence. He's vastly superior to most of the limited hangouts we still admire. Yes we need to call out all bullshit, like this OP, but we can't tear down the person for every minor error or fashion mistake (neck tattoo).

            [–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

            how do we find out about resistance rallies? I always find out about them after they happen, not that I've ever heard about one near me even after the fact

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            Ours are on StandUpWindsor.ca. I can't speak for each region.

            I got the domain Projex.wiki last week and aim to make it a resistance resource, among many other things. Projex.wiki will be for projects of any kind: essays, blogs, galleries, lists, tutorials, reviews, resources, project management, production development, manifestos, books, prepper guides, resistance analysis, resistance manuals, resistance organizing tools, and resistance dates and locations (and maps) - and whatever you think is a good project. We can host all these open-developed projects.

            Plus, unlike other sites and resources, all the copyrights of your media belong to you. We don't have an army of lawyers to defend these rights, but at least on paper they still are yours. The terms and conditions on all the major sites make you give away your rights - or on sites like Wikipedia it's all copyleft.

            Ideally we can build a few more standardized copyright alternatives similar to the limited Creative Commons options.

            [–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            excellent! thanks. Good luck with Projex. The windsor site looks nice.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            I would take credit for all of it except I did none of it. Currie our local leader operates it.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Here's one coming up:
            /s/politics/comments/8axk/truckers_unite_august_31st_2021_in_solidarity/

            [–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            cool!

            [–]Questionable[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

            Nobody's buying that. NOBODY.

            Marketing to Doctors: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQZ2UeOTO3I

            Opioids: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pdPrQFjo2o

            Opioids II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qCKR6wy94U

            Opioids III: The Sacklers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaCaIhfETsM

            Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            John Oliver is a compromised limited hangout and unreliable corporate media source.

            But yes, the Sacklers are very evil.

            [–]Questionable[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            This is John before he was compromised. It's all down hill from there.

            Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

            I stopped watching John Oliver because of that garbage one-sided series of reports.

            [–]Questionable[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

            As right you should. He is no Jon Stewart, that's for sure. Though these episodes come from a time when he still had some integrity. And though they are one sided, they are well researched.

            Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            He researched half of it, all the bad bits. Considering the sheer amount of present and future suffering, as well as the increased suicides from people in chronic pain, and people harming their organs because of the amount of Tylenol or Advil that often now replaces more effective opiates, I don't see it as a small matter to just consider one side in a public broadcast. I don't see any integrity there.

            And you know if John Oliver got hurt he's going to get proper pain meds. They're okay with the peasants suffering but not themselves. Mitch McConnell broke his hip not long after he said "Tylenol is all you ever need," or something to that effect. I'm pretty sure he meant that's what other people need. I don't remember anyone in the MSM pointing out the likely blatant double standard when it happened.

            [–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            He researched half of it, all the bad bits.

            I stated this outright in the comment you have replied to.

            I don't see any integrity there.

            I didn't ask you to judge integrity, only the information presented, which was all valid criticism.

            "And you know if John Oliver got hurt he's going to get proper pain meds. They're okay with the peasants suffering but not themselves."

            A straw man that appeals to my feelings. One I will not address, as this is in fact about overdose deaths and addictions. So it's not that they don't care about 'the peasants' suffering, it's more about profiting off of their suffering and death. Or to say, they enjoy your suffering, and these drugs assist in your death.

            Mitch McConnell broke his hip not long after he said "Tylenol is all you ever need,"

            Odd statement to quote as a negative, as it is you here now, acting as though Tylenol and advil are the only other drugs in existence.

            Here is a list of 424 pain medications.

            Fentanyl is way to dangerous on it's own, and Oxycontin doesn't need to exist at all. The reality of the matter is, they only keep reinventing these drugs, so that they can hold the patents. And they lie about their effectiveness and side effects, as to make money.

            " I don't remember anyone in the MSM pointing out the likely blatant double standard when it happened."

            You know... Neither do I. As I haven't owned a functioning television in over 15 years.

            Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            acting as though Tylenol and advil are the only other drugs in existence.

            OTC there's also naproxen and aspirin. Recently diclofenac gel became available otc too. They're all relatively weak. Dextromethorphan can be used off-label for pain also, but tolerance builds rapidly.

            But all my doctors want to prescribe here is advil or Tylenol. If you go to the hospital you might get Toradol, great stuff but it's not suitable for long term use.

            As far as non narcotic prescriptions, I asked people in r/chronicpain awhile back to list the most effective ones they've tried. These are the ones I haven't tried yet:

            Indometacin
            Orphenadrine (>100mg)
            Pregabalin
            Ketamine nasal spray
            Baclofen

            Ketamine, pregablin and baclofen aren't the easiest to get prescribed.

            And the ones suggested that didn't/won't work for me:

            Ketoprofen (systematic review found more effective than ibuprofen and it did work great but it stops being effective quickly and is difficult to find - liver issues)
            Diclofenac gel - Meh
            Meloxicam - stomach pains
            Torodor - Can't be taken long term
            low dose Naltrexone - Mess with kratom
            Gabapentin - didn't work
            Antidepressants - bad reaction

            So there's other options, but they aren't fantastic options. Personally of all the ones I've tried, its hard to beat Advil, although tylenol works better for some people. Everything listed is not in the same league as the weakest opioids, tramadol or codeine, except maybe Toradol.

            And if I'm in major pain or recovering from surgery, I'd want something that's not for minor pain, stuff like oxy or fent (or Dilaudid).

            The reality of the matter is, they only keep reinventing these drugs, so that they can hold the patents

            They do.

            Fentanyl is way to dangerous on it's own

            It's dangerous in street drugs because the effective dosage is so low (mcg). It's not nearly as dangerous in time release patches as long people aren't taking the fent out of them to shoot up.

            Oxycontin doesn't need to exist at all.

            Hmm, I guess you're right about that too. Its availability was its big draw. There's dilaudid for really serious pain but that's as abused as oxy, just harder to get.

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            I stopped after his pathetic hit piece on Jill Stein.

            [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Weed is an amazing pain killer. If you believe that the pharmaceutical companies are not purposefully pushing addictive drugs then you are extremely ignorant. That this woman is linked to two cases of pretty clear regulatory capture is compelling to anyone who's head isn't up their own ass.

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Weed can be extremely harmful.

            [–]Questionable[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Look, you can make the same arguments for the benefits of Communism. But the harsh reality of the matter is you can't make this argument for either, as it doesn't matter what it can be only what it is, and who controls it. Both will only lead to your subjugation and death.

            Ĥ̅͛ǝ̮̺͕̲̰llo ʍoɹlp' I,m Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.̬̘̟ͅ

            [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Insightful and concise.

            [–]Rob3122 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

            I don't listen to dipshits with tattoos on their throat

            [–]Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            Ad homonym. If your only argument is "I don't like WHO said it" then you're a moron.

            [–]Rob3122 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Look at you calling someone a moron and yet you don't even know how to spell "ad hominem" correctly...

            [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            This is also an ad hominem. 😝

            [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            When I run into him on Saturday I'll let him know you said so.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Normally I'd be the first to agree, but that dipshit speaks truth.

            [–]IkeConn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            On average I need opiod pain killers once every 4 to 6 years. Now due to drug doctor and drug company fuckery I'll never be able to get them again when I need them. Gee fucking thanks.

            [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            Use weed. Its better in every way.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            Destroys willpower.

            [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Far less than opioids. Far less than even alcohol.

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Nope.

            [–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            BOMBSHELL-with a twitter link. nope.

            [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

            Good point. If only there was an Internet to look it up.

            [–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            that didnt occur to me. it did occur to me to not make shit threads with a twitter link as the source.