Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]CreditKnifeMan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The sad part is that almost all "science" these days is pseudoscience.

$cience the$e day$.

This driver shows the proper amount of respect for climate protesters blocking a road in Australia by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pull that shit in the southern USA. That redneck is going through you, around you, or over you and the cops will let them.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The sad part is that almost all "science" these days is pseudoscience.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We are in an in an ice age compared to the time of the dinosaurs.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]FuckYourMom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Alaska is looking real nice right now.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]FuckYourMom 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Got it.

Basically, they tested wrong, and are now treating not good data like it’s the gospel.

You know, Saturn and titan are also experience global warming right now? In the same increments as us?

The sun is producing more energy. That’s all there is too it.

This driver shows the proper amount of respect for climate protesters blocking a road in Australia by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]LordoftheFlies 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes, the best way to protest climate change is to have multiple lane of running vehicles backed up for miles behind your protest site, that'll fucking show 'em!

Wonder who in that protest would be responsible if someone had a heart attack or other type of life-threatening medical issue in their car, and first responders couldn't get through.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a climate heretic, I already know.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The samples are too far apart. If you are looking at data and sampling every 200 years or every 6000 years, then how are you going to miss a giant spike that only lasts 100 years? The CO2 in the modern time frame has only been going up for a relatively short time. The scientists also threw out any spikes in the data as spurious, which would likely also miss the current habbenings. So if you are looking for short term wild swings in CO2 concentration in ice core data, you're gonna have to find someone to do brand-new sampling because all the old data we have is not suitable for the comparison to the modern day.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you believe the earth is zillions of years old, we are currently coming out of a zillion years long ice age, according to The Science.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not this article per se, but the gist is that an ice age is the exception for earth, not the rule. The ice age is the anomoly, and they are always temporary. So by taking samples from the ice caps which inherently limits the data to the current ice age which started 3 million years ago and is just coming to an end they are essentially cherry picking data.

When you hear about "ice ages" and cycles of warming and cooling taken from that data they imply that the ice ages are ending and beginning, but that is a lie. What they are showing is simply warmer and cooler periods within this ice age. They are actually called inter-glacial periods. But all the mainstream scientists just lie and call them ice ages.

The ice age was always going to end, like all ice ages throughout history have ended. The current ice age used to have a lot more ice. Most of it melted before humans were around. Humans came around at the very tail end of that process.

This driver shows the proper amount of respect for climate protesters blocking a road in Australia by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Traffic jams make me extremely angry. I dont know what I would do in case some of these assholes block the road just in front of me.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]NuclearBadger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Samples from 800,000 years ago?

So at no point, in the last 800,000 years the ice melted enough to make a difference.

The great recycling LIE (what really happens to plastic) (10:44) ~ Sorelle Amore Finance by JasonCarswell in environment

[–]FuckYourMom 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Can you just tell me like the one sentence version of what happens to shit we recycle?

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]FuckYourMom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can you to;dr the article for me?

Thank you.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Riva 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Buddy, the lie is bigger than that.

Today I learned: Ice core sample data are not fit for the purpose of comparing modern CO2 level increases to historical changes by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]CreditKnifeMan 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Are you sure?

They're perfect for pseudoscience.

US Appeals Court Forces EPA to Reassess Glyphosate on Health and Environmental Impact by Drewski in environment

[–]CreditKnifeMan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This could be a double edged sword.

Outlaw the herbicide, during a farming catastrophe without alternative herbicide (or seed), and exacerbating additional future crop losses.

Toxic farming practices should be reduced in every practical aspect. Whenever practical.

Ideally, before industrial approval.

I'm sure the EPA and FDA haven't done any homework on the synthetic meat and insect industry.

The people who want us to eat bugs, can eat shit.

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]yelgy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

shit in your yard

Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV? by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]SychoShine509 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, but you can't do anything about what other people think, really, so much.

Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV? by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes on all points, but you are missing the main one: People who are buying EVs to save the planet unironcially, have probably not considered that their pet energy source has approximately the same problems as fossil fuels PLUS some lovely slave labor issues to boot.

Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV? by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Spaceplone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes.

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Go and look up the history of lawns. Unless you have kids that play on it or animals that you graze on it, then there is no point and youre part of the trick to make people think they should exist.

If you cut your lawn on a regular enough basis (if it never gets over grown), then you do not need fertiliser. If your lawn is suffering on a regular basis, then your dirt is stuffed or you have the wrong kind of grass. But Anman, that is why I use fertiliser, because my dirt is not good enough. Then you will continue to need fertiliser for the rest of the lawns life. Fix the dirt. Right dirt and right grass for your environment will never need fertiliser.

I have never fertilised grass in my life.

Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV? by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]SychoShine509 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem here is that this doesn't put any controls on its comparison. For one thing, the lithium from the EV only needs replenishment sparingly. On the other hand, the fossil fuel extraction is absolutely massive in total scale. Just because it isn't as "visible" as a strip mine doesn't mean the total across all fossil fuel extraction planetwide is somehow less than the extraction for minerals.

That said, they are right to point out that lithium is not environmentally "free", either. And yes, that means EVs are not a cure-all for ALL environmental problems and they shouldn't be treated that way. But here's another thing: they cite Indigenous communities in that article. Many of them ALSO oppose fossil fuel extraction, too. The real trick is MORE radicalism, not less - getting rid of the personal car. Public transport (heck, trams!), work at closer proximity if physical presence is needed, remote if it's not, trying to get more food supplies made locally, eliminating waste (i.e. no more throw-away goods), and so forth.

And of course, even with all the best effort there will still be some environmental impact. But "perfection" is not and should not be the aim, simply stopping the 6th major mass extinction event on Earth which is an event of our own making.

National Geographic: Global warming is causing increased crop yields, here's why that's bad by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]FuckYourMom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

An increase of carbon in the atmosphere is good for plants. They pump about 4000 parts per million of carbon into green houses for plants. We sit at like 1000 parts per million right now.

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chicken shit is great if you can get it.

Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV? by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I so, so, SO hope this line of thinking catches on with the leftists currently demanding an end to ICE engines

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can always use some organic waste. But since it tends to attract flies, you could dig a hole and cover it.

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]HongKongPhooey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, Alfalfa is an extremely rich and long lasting (it is uptaken gradually, unlike urine) source of organic nitrogen

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Biodynamic and Organic started around the same time, the former being centered in Germany at the start as it is Steiner's, the latter from what I read was centered in England at first. They are similar, as they evolved Biodynamic is more strict in what they can use. The weird aspects of it are acknowledged by the farmers I know who use it, but they find it works. Steiner himself did not create a dogma but told those he spoke to to test the system he proposed and change it over time. Ehrenfried Pfeiffer was pretty much directed by Steiner to apply modern scientific techniques to the study of it all. The goal was always "does this work" and not "here's the story we can tell about what's going on to make sense of why this might work" so, not making sense is just par for the course. Action at a distance still makes no "sense".

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]smokeDrugs 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice. Sounds pretty close to leaving the lawn clippings down in the lawn so that they will decompose.

As the Great Salt Lake Dries Up, Utah Faces An ‘Environmental Nuclear Bomb’ by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]AmericanMuskrat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You still alive?

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Organic farming has some great ideas. I only know about clover though. It is all about making the soil healthy.

Biodynamic is also interesting, seems based on very old knowledge. But has some weird thing.

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Set up a few bird feeders and you'll be harvesting guano in no time. Fertilizer just drops out the sky.

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]AmericanMuskrat 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I tried using the strays as fertilizer but they kept digging their way out.

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Next-door's cats fertilise my garden.

Substitute for fertilizer by rubberbiscuit in environment

[–]AmericanMuskrat 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Diluted urine is also an excellent source of plant nutrients. And magnesium can be provided by using epsom salts.

Previous 'expert' consensus was the Western Monarch Butterfly Migration would cease due to low insect population . . . revised after observations to "100x larger than last year" by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But do remember to trust the Science. The Experts know it all!

Microplastics found in freshly fallen Antarctic snow for first time by SoCo in environment

[–]CreditKnifeMan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Antarctic snow samples were evaluated during the 2020 lockdowns... by mask wearing scientists.

...Because of Covid.

Microplastics found in freshly fallen Antarctic snow for first time by SoCo in environment

[–]SoCo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I could have swore I read this several years ago, but they say this is the first time.

Think the Fresno region’s drought is new from human caused Climate Change? Tree data proves that not to be so by SoCo in environment

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope California finds some new water because we don't want them here.

National Geographic: Global warming is causing increased crop yields, here's why that's bad by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]IkeConn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Leave it to a scientist to see the doom and gloom in everything.

Eying short term gains, with big long term losses, Biden stabs US solar manufacturing industry in the back after decades of support by tariffs banning Chinese market manipulation by SoCo in environment

[–]SoCo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most of the trade violations I'm aware of go back to the Obama days and relate to market manipulation, such as dumping. They really set back our domestic solar panel industry decades.

Unfortunately, Obama's tariffs largely failed and were deemed a "game of whack-a-mole" (all criticism has since been erased from Internet memory, including the "whack-a-mole" term coining article its self). Trump followed up with the scorched-earth approach, just tariffing everything. He was criticized for it, and it probably had some negative consequences to innocent market players, but it seemed quite effective.

Biden seems intent on setting US solar back to the stone ages. This tariff lift cannot ever encourage domestic solar panel production. It can only go back to importing cheap Chinese solar panels. This will cause a boom in solar installation. Some domestic solar producers will do good, the ones who simply assemble Chines solar parts domestically.

The flood of dirt cheap garbage Chinese solar panels will once again crush US solar panel production.

Eying short term gains, with big long term losses, Biden stabs US solar manufacturing industry in the back after decades of support by tariffs banning Chinese market manipulation by SoCo in environment

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So Biden banned solar panel products from China in 2021 due to "trade violations" (i.e. labor abuse in Xinjiang's cotton industry, except China bought a shit ton of machines years before the accusation and have 24/7 footage of them using the machines in the fields).

Biden announces that he wants to build more solar panels, causing gains in the solar panel industry in Wallstreet. He wants to freeze tariffs on China's solar panel products.

Lifting tariffs allows more access to a cheap supply chain in the domestic solar manufacturing industry, but can negatively affect Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia and Cambodia.

Chemicals used in farms and gardens have been causing medical problems for many years. This article from 1977 states that men became sterile after working with DOW and Shell chemicals. by In-the-clouds in environment

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The FDA's track record is proof enough of the failed safety of government approved substances. I appreciate seeing articles such as this to further spread the information and warn those unaware. Healthy eating is important, too often I look at processed food ingredients in horror, and yet the general public have no concerns over their food now containing soy, palm oil, aspartame and dozens of other biproducts from pesticides. I simply find it remarkable that the same governments would ban recreational substances that are fairly harmless compared to the rubbish they put in the food chain.

Chemicals used in farms and gardens have been causing medical problems for many years. This article from 1977 states that men became sterile after working with DOW and Shell chemicals. by In-the-clouds in environment

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I sense sarcasm, but I am not here to have fun. If you know of a danger, you could help by warning your fellow man to avoid it.

I appreciate that you acknowledge that chemicals approved by the government are not always safe.

Chemicals used in farms and gardens have been causing medical problems for many years. This article from 1977 states that men became sterile after working with DOW and Shell chemicals. by In-the-clouds in environment

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But don't you dare use those naughty chemicals that let you have fun, no no, just get cancer and go sterile on these government approved chemicals 🙄

Chemicals used in farms and gardens have been causing medical problems for many years. This article from 1977 states that men became sterile after working with DOW and Shell chemicals. by In-the-clouds in environment

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When will men learn to stop making and using poisonous chemicals, especially in their food production?  You can help:  buy "organic" food and keep chemicals away from plants you grow.

California court rules that bees are a type of fish in order to protect them under the state's endangered species act by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't California my Tennessee.

California court rules that bees are a type of fish in order to protect them under the state's endangered species act by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]CreditKnifeMan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They don't even need warrants.

The DNR will be inspecting bee hives.

California court rules that bees are a type of fish in order to protect them under the state's endangered species act by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]Horrux 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bees are truly endangered, and with them, the entire food chain, the whole ecosystem.

But that law... Just goes to show how demented it is to have legal systems as we do.

California court rules that bees are a type of fish in order to protect them under the state's endangered species act by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]AmericanMuskrat 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Great, now Fish & Wildlife is gonna fuck up your day if you accidentally kill a bee. They don't even need warrants.

California court rules that bees are a type of fish in order to protect them under the state's endangered species act by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Noteworthy: This is possible because the law, as written, is rubbish. California being California.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Translation: people are lazy and local governments don't give 2 shits.

Fish off the coast of Florida are testing positive for ANTIDEPRESSANTS, prostate medications, antibiotics and pain relievers by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All those blue hairs and old yankees in Florida are flushing that shit down the toilets.

Fish off the coast of Florida are testing positive for ANTIDEPRESSANTS, prostate medications, antibiotics and pain relievers by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At a glance, I can't seem to find a source. Maybe I'm wrong about it being impossible.

It seems being in-feasibly cost prohibitive to do perfectly, may be more accurate. Distillation without filtration misses a lot of stuff. Reverse osmosis is just force-filtering; It is cost effective, and does a dang good job for the cost, but leaves small amounts of stuff, and other stuff bypasses it. Charcoal filtering gets most of the really bad stuff well, like the "forever chemicals." Yet it can't get every type of pollutant, so distillation gets the rest. Charcoal filtering isn't very cost effective, especially at municipal water volumes. Disposal of the leftover contaminated charcoal is quite a cost too. Plasma techniques are super new, but seem promising.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm seeing a lot more recycled plastic moulded park benches and picnic tables lately, and other street furniture. Not all plastic must be recyclable for food contact or with strict colour and structural specifications. Recycling in general may be a pain in the ass but it does work.

Fish off the coast of Florida are testing positive for ANTIDEPRESSANTS, prostate medications, antibiotics and pain relievers by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]AmericanMuskrat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you have a source for that? I've been looking and it seems like between charcoal filtration, reverse osmosis, and distillation, we can get nearly perfectly pure water. Not that it's a perfect solution to the problem due to the expense but it's there.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol

Fish off the coast of Florida are testing positive for ANTIDEPRESSANTS, prostate medications, antibiotics and pain relievers by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]Gaydolf_Titler 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And happy, except for those fish-school shooters.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]AmericanMuskrat 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Cool, glad to see my idea has been developed so quickly. I just thought it up yesterday.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Use clay instead

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Funny you should mention because that's exactly what is happening right now today and the claim is bollocks that it can't be done. That the author doesn't know it is being done, doesn't mean it can't be!

Fish off the coast of Florida are testing positive for ANTIDEPRESSANTS, prostate medications, antibiotics and pain relievers by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Many of those medications cannot be filtered or even distilled out of our drinking water completely.

Leftist finally smack their faces into the reality of plastic recycling. by sproketboy in environment

[–]FuckYourMom 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are right. And surprisingly enough, that may be the end for the human race. Plastic. But we should stop using it. Even if it is an empty gesture.

Leftist finally smack their faces into the reality of plastic recycling. by sproketboy in environment

[–]sproketboy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Too late for that. Leftists scums have put microplastics into all of our organs.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I found the original on /. man there are a lot of commies over there. They all should be shipped to North Korea where their magic utopia exists. The 2 commies at the Atlantic blame it on the "plastics industry". Funny how leftists never look in the mirror. The real cause is idiot leftists who don't understand basic economics. FOUNDATIONALLY wrong in their idea that plastics need to break down into the environment when they never asked - break down into what? Now we all get to have micro-plastics in our organs. NORTH KOREA FOR ALL OF THEM!

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]AmericanMuskrat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok socks.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]paul1149 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why don't they wash it, grind it up and use it locally for building insulation?

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]AcceleratedWallops 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

AI and robotics? Sounds like that costs money. Our bottom line can't handle that. Oh well! Sucks to suck for the earth I guess

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]Ehhhhhh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, don't recycle all. Instead, use pyrolysis to convert to fuel.

Leftist finally smack their faces into the reality of plastic recycling. by sproketboy in environment

[–]FuckYourMom 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The use of plastics for food should be illegal.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When I worked at a plastics blow-molding factory a decade or more ago, the main products, clear plastic ketchup and BBQ sauce bottles which they made en-mass, were limited to only like 1.7% of recycled material.

This recycled material was the pure, no sorting needed, ground up waste material. The limitation was due to the plastic quality. It must meet requirements of elasticity and strength; not too brittle to crack versus not dented too easily.

I'm not sure what made the fresh waste material mostly unusable, but it was likely from the heating and cooling process and additives. Additives I'm aware of include UV stabilizers, so bottles don't decompose if left in direct sunlight very long, and "lubi-stat", as light food-grade oil that prevents the plastic from getting scuffed up against other bottles.

Plastic Recycling Doesn’t Work and Will Never Work by Melodic_Programmer in environment

[–]AmericanMuskrat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They all include different chemical additives and colorants that cannot be recycled together, making it impossible to sort the trillions of pieces of plastics into separate types for processing.

Hold my beer. That actually seems pretty easily solvable with AI and robotics. It isn't impossible to sort everything into identical groups, it's just super fucking tedious, and who does tedious better than our robot slaves.

Fish off the coast of Florida are testing positive for ANTIDEPRESSANTS, prostate medications, antibiotics and pain relievers by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]HongKongPhooey[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

In America our fish are just as healthy as our people

Germany is razing a 12,000-year-old forest to make way for a coal mine by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]Mastermustard04 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This article is from 2018. That forest is gone now.

Germany is razing a 12,000-year-old forest to make way for a coal mine by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]EndlessSunflowers 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"The crucified planet Earth, should it find a voice and a sense of irony, might now well say of our abuse of it, "Forgive them, Father, They know not what they do." The irony would be that we know what we are doing. When the last living thing has died on account of us, how poetical it would be if Earth could say, in a voice floating up perhaps from the floor of the Grand Canyon, "It is done." People did not like it here."

Kurt Vonnegut. A Man Without a Country. (2005)

Germany is razing a 12,000-year-old forest to make way for a coal mine by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Germany, never change.

Oh, you didn't

Germany is razing a 12,000-year-old forest to make way for a coal mine by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]Anman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Renewable energy at its finest. No one will notice the hypocrisy.

BUT, I will admit, new forests process way more carbon than old.

Climate Change Hysteria Won’t Solve the Planetary Crisis by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]HongKongPhooey[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

100% Agree with you SychoShine. This was meant to debunk the capitalist narrative that we can fix this problem with more technology and carbon credits, and to point out that a sustainable society means far more than reducing carbon emissions. I realize this could have come off as climate denialism, but that was not the motivation behind my posting this. Thank you for elaborating on the issue and making some important points

Study results: Yeah you guys remember how we said electric cars emit less CO2 than internal combustion? Yeah . . . not so much. by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tesla battery life article, for anyone who's interested in this thread of the debate.

Today I learned vast areas of the Amazon were covered in savannah, not rain forest, thousands of years ago by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've heard that the pre-colonial eastern U.S. had oak savannahs for as the far as the eye could see.

Today I learned vast areas of the Amazon were covered in savannah, not rain forest, thousands of years ago by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Implications surrounding the "loss" of the rain forest become more complicated if true

Flashback to 2020 when Glacier National Park removed the signs that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 due to global warming LOL by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]platonic1 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The church of scientism has been with us since the Age of Reason. They dogmatically tell us what to believe without sharing the analysis of the data and if we critique their claims, even using their own data, they call us peasants too stupid and ask us to trust their experts. In geology they say that uniformatarianism is what we should believe because most of their experts do, in spite of underwater cities all over the world. In biology they tell us that because finches can adapt to environments with beak shape we must now believe that fishes can become mammals or lizards can become birds. With Covid they tell us that the data showed lockdowns were a good idea, but then when we examine it and say that is shows no such thing they call us misinformers or conspiracy theorists.

Flashback to 2020 when Glacier National Park removed the signs that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 due to global warming LOL by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Anman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Were you on the internet in 2020? This was all over the place back then.

Did you literally just copy the post title and do a google search for 5 seconds?

Have you tried using toilet paper instead of steel wool?

Climate Change Hysteria Won’t Solve the Planetary Crisis by HongKongPhooey in environment

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The average temperature has dropped about 10 degrees c these last few months. We are all going to die.

Flashback to 2020 when Glacier National Park removed the signs that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 due to global warming LOL by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]TarBaby 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

But but Al Gore, but but Manbearpig?

Flashback to 2020 when Glacier National Park removed the signs that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 due to global warming LOL by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]jamesK_3rd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Story is from CNN.. it's likely something is fake, were there signs there? Did they actually say this?

Please post a reputable source

Flashback to 2020 when Glacier National Park removed the signs that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 due to global warming LOL by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]SoCo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So many times have wee been told the US coasts would be under water any day now, too...

Flashback to 2020 when Glacier National Park removed the signs that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 due to global warming LOL by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]StillLessons 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Religion and science do not mix well. The "Climate-Change" religion has taken a basic scientific observation (the planet is warming) and created an entire moral-functional paradigm surrounding it, believing the basic observation justifies every leap of logic they have made since. Other than that original observation (with which I agree), however, all the rest is human irrationality running rampant. That rest being: 1) Human activity is the definitive and sole cause of the warming; 2) The warming is catastrophic; 3) The strategies they propose will "solve" the warming. None of those continuations layered upon the original observation yet comes with even remotely enough evidence to confirm it, but now that they have become religious tenets, evidence is no longer necessary. The corporate powers and their servants in government and academia will enforce belief in them.

That said, this particular flavor of authoritarianism is a secondary problem to the two current dominant strains: medical tyranny and warfare. Currently those two forms of tyranny (quite explicit now) form the clear and present dangers.

Flashback to 2020 when Glacier National Park removed the signs that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 due to global warming LOL by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Anman 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Still waiting for the ice age the 1970s time magazine said would happen.

Study results: Yeah you guys remember how we said electric cars emit less CO2 than internal combustion? Yeah . . . not so much. by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The point isn't how long an EV will last (under regular use), because an ICE powered car can easily last 15-20 with proper maintenance too. Rather it's that the current consumer behavior is to replace their vehicle relatively frequently. I don't know what the average figure for length of new car ownership is but 5 years sounds reasonable to me. Heck I've know people who wouldn't own a car for longer than 2 years.

The authors acknowledge this in the final sentence of the conclusion: "This shows that only a complete change in “consumption” habits can help reduce CO2 emissions and fight global warming."

Study results: Yeah you guys remember how we said electric cars emit less CO2 than internal combustion? Yeah . . . not so much. by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Jong56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You seriously think a lithium based battery will last 10+ years (without losing 50% of it's capacity) while enduring freezing cold, extreme heat, irregular cyclic charging, and constant software updates which change the battery behavior?

Hint: you're mistaken.

Study results: Yeah you guys remember how we said electric cars emit less CO2 than internal combustion? Yeah . . . not so much. by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Jong56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have you seen the build quality of a Tesla? It won't be around in 15 years and even if it is still running, it's batteries will need to have been replaced two or three times in the same period unless you're cool with <100 mile range

Study results: Yeah you guys remember how we said electric cars emit less CO2 than internal combustion? Yeah . . . not so much. by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

dinosaurs are a hoax to force a perspective of lack existing.. and eminent destruction

oil is bio mass from dead bugs/trees/animals

it is literally the most natural thing available

Study results: Yeah you guys remember how we said electric cars emit less CO2 than internal combustion? Yeah . . . not so much. by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Jong56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's surprising it takes 5-10 years for society to catch up with the educated individual's common sense.

Simply producing lithium batteries consumes more resources than constructing and running a steel and aluminium engine by an order of mgnintude.

Study results: Yeah you guys remember how we said electric cars emit less CO2 than internal combustion? Yeah . . . not so much. by iamonlyoneman in environment

[–]Anman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anytime large amounts of batteries are in an enclosed space in an industrial application, you absolutely will die if you walk into the room with a cigarette. This has been known for decades and is even more true now for lithium and even nickel. Also the whole processing and disposal process and all that.