Is the decline of the Christian faith a loss for Whites?

submitted by Nasser from self.debatealtright

Across the western world the Christian faith has declined everywhere in numbers from church attendance to genuine belief. I've frequently seen leftists brag about this and a sign of them "winning" is inevitable and the right failing. The reasons for this decline are numerous from deplorable pedophilia in the Catholic church, religious terrorism from Islam, explosion of the internet leading to people being exposed to other faiths and questioning their own as well as greater knowledge in history and seeing the churches historical flaws like the indulgences scandal that led to the reformation and that period of mass religious violence, greater support for contraceptives, abortion, gay marriage etc that the church took stubborn stances on and the increase in affluence and abundance reducing the need to pray to God. As well as all that subtle and overt anti Christian propaganda from popular media. For example, the simpsons - https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/The-Simpsons-on-God-with-Devon-Stack:2

So I know a lot of White nationalists don't care or even look down on Christianity believing Whites should return to Paganism or believe Christianity makes us weak and reject the warrior. However disregarding that, Christianity (whether it be Catholicism, Orthodox, Protestant sects) has largely been "our" peoples faith since it's explosion in Roman times and has served as a means of maintaining societal unity and identity.

Do you believe this to the decline of the faith in White societies is a loss for Whites and the right? Do you believe Leftists are correct in believing it's decline is a victory for them and a sign of them further winning? Do you believe the faith can "regenerate" among our people?

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[–]veganethan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Christianity got us here. We must pass through to the next phase. Never backward, only forward.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

How did Christianity get us here? If that's true why didn't it "do it" sooner?

[–]veganethan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Christianity has no means to enforce its own cultural values. As society fell, the church went right with it.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So would you have liked Christianity when it had Knight and military orders like the Templars?

[–]veganethan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Templars worshipped Baphomet, they weren't Christian.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I simply reject the premise. Christianity is not in decline. The West has never been more Christian than it is now. Christianity isn't about God, the Church, or being a "based TradCath. It's about the core message, which is the slave morality of Jesus' teachings.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I simply reject the premise. Christianity is not in decline. The West has never been more Christian than it is now. Christianity isn't about God, the Church, or being a "based TradCath". It's about the core message, which is the slave morality of Jesus' teachings.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why do you believe the faith is the strongest now? It's a proven fact Christianity has declined massively over the years, look at the UK census's from 1991- 2021, now a Christian minority. Hell in the middle ages Christians launched the crusades and were fiercely devoted to their faith the same way Islamic fundamentalists were to theirs.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have you not read my comment?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jews really don't seem to care what religion a target group is. They adjust their subversion tactics accordingly. If paganism had been the dominate white religion in the 1950's when Jews started marching through the institutions and laying the ground work for degenerate neo cultural communism then we'd be having the same conversation about paganism right now not Christianity. Whites need to regain faith in some type of spiritual system but we will never do it while we live in bondage to Jewish financial and spiritual colonists. Arguing which faith causes the subversion of whites is a futile discussion.

If we are to survive as a people our new 'faith' must be revenge and retribution. Survival is amoral.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Big brained take

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you believe this to the decline of the faith in White societies is a loss for Whites and the right?

No, not the decline. It's the take over that's the issue. The hot new trend in the church is to be affirming. The church supports girls in boy scouts, transfaggotism, regular faggotism, gay child adoption, negrolatry, open borders, the list goes on.

Do you believe Leftists are correct in believing it's decline is a victory for them and a sign of them further winning

Declining faith, no, not a huge victory, but taking over the church and making it gay was a yuge victory.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Too many Christians considered it their duty to welcome all kinds of colors into European societies, feed them, give them a pleasant life and so on. Now they suffer the consequences.